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Old 04-20-2011, 10:29 AM   #1
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Here is a good read for anyone who has a keen interest in street/Track day tire tech.

http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ire-comparison


it compared the BT-016, Q2, power pure, and corsa rosso.


it mentions the tire profiles raising and lowering the front and rear as compared to OEM and the other tires in the shootout..

that being said. if a rider changes tire brand would it be prudent to re-evaluate suspension set-up (for TD riding at least.. I'm sure street riding is negligible)?


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Old 04-20-2011, 10:47 AM   #2
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Interesting read, especially how to different level riders felt the same feedback from the tires.

Was looking at the Pilot Pures, may have to check out the Dunlops.
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I'm running the Q2's. I'm not sold on the "feel" of them. I have not ridden in a while and have not put more than 200mi. on them though.
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Here is a good read for anyone who has a keen interest in street/Track day tire tech.

http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ire-comparison


it compared the BT-016, Q2, power pure, and corsa rosso.


it mentions the tire profiles raising and lowering the front and rear as compared to OEM and the other tires in the shootout..

that being said. if a rider changes tire brand would it be prudent to re-evaluate suspension set-up (for TD riding at least.. I'm sure street riding is negligible)?


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The "setup" normally done at trackdays is a damping and preload adjustment. Its, at best, a ballpark. A harder or softer carcass tire will require some adjustments in compression damping to adapt, but they're not huge, and since your setup is just a ballpark anyway, you probably don't need to adjust it unless you notice a problem (or somethnig you don't like).

As far as profile: well, most $30 trackday suspension setups don't adjust suspension height at all. So if you went to get it redone simply for this reason, it'd be a waste of money.


Caveat: I've seen one trackday suspension setup duder attempt to adjust suspension height, but they did it using preload. I don't particularly like that approach at all.
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Here is a good read for anyone who has a keen interest in street/Track day tire tech.

http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ire-comparison


it compared the BT-016, Q2, power pure, and corsa rosso.


it mentions the tire profiles raising and lowering the front and rear as compared to OEM and the other tires in the shootout..

that being said. if a rider changes tire brand would it be prudent to re-evaluate suspension set-up (for TD riding at least.. I'm sure street riding is negligible)?


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is this what you're teaching your kids in class? tire technology?

back on topic
maybe i should try q2's next.
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i've heard some great things about the 016s and those will probably be my next set of tires
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The "setup" normally done at trackdays is a damping and preload adjustment. Its, at best, a ballpark. A harder or softer carcass tire will require some adjustments in compression damping to adapt, but they're not huge, and since your setup is just a ballpark anyway, you probably don't need to adjust it unless you notice a problem (or somethnig you don't like).

As far as profile: well, most $30 trackday suspension setups don't adjust suspension height at all. So if you went to get it redone simply for this reason, it'd be a waste of money.


Caveat: I've seen one trackday suspension setup duder attempt to adjust suspension height, but they did it using preload. I don't particularly like that approach at all.
word..good info. One of our sponsors did my suspension with my BT016s on it. wasnt sure it it was worth a re-evaluation for just TD and street
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is this what you're teaching your kids in class? tire technology?

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maybe i should try q2's next.
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The "setup" normally done at trackdays is a damping and preload adjustment. Its, at best, a ballpark. A harder or softer carcass tire will require some adjustments in compression damping to adapt, but they're not huge, and since your setup is just a ballpark anyway, you probably don't need to adjust it unless you notice a problem (or somethnig you don't like).

As far as profile: well, most $30 trackday suspension setups don't adjust suspension height at all. So if you went to get it redone simply for this reason, it'd be a waste of money.


Caveat: I've seen one trackday suspension setup duder attempt to adjust suspension height, but they did it using preload. I don't particularly like that approach at all.
word..good info. One of our sponsors did my suspension with my BT016s on it. wasnt sure it it was worth a re-evaluation for just TD and street
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You should try motoboston.com
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I'll be ordering some Q2's soon for track use. Motomummy has front/back SHIPPED for $200 right now. I can't justify the price of marginally better tires for $100 extra.
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you're pretty close bevo. theres actually a BostonMoto.com. But its not a forum. Its a track org. Overpriced up there. $225/trackday
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Interesting they talk about tire squirm on the Pilot Pures on a 600.. can't imagine they would do well on a 1200..
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Here is a good read for anyone who has a keen interest in street/Track day tire tech.

http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ire-comparison


it compared the BT-016, Q2, power pure, and corsa rosso.


it mentions the tire profiles raising and lowering the front and rear as compared to OEM and the other tires in the shootout..

that being said. if a rider changes tire brand would it be prudent to re-evaluate suspension set-up (for TD riding at least.. I'm sure street riding is negligible)?


-Bryan.

Suspension? Not so much for track days. Geometry? Yes.
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Here is a good read for anyone who has a keen interest in street/Track day tire tech.

http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/...ire-comparison


it compared the BT-016, Q2, power pure, and corsa rosso.


it mentions the tire profiles raising and lowering the front and rear as compared to OEM and the other tires in the shootout..

that being said. if a rider changes tire brand would it be prudent to re-evaluate suspension set-up (for TD riding at least.. I'm sure street riding is negligible)?


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Suspension? Not so much for track days. Geometry? Yes.
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