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Old 04-20-2011, 01:20 AM   #81
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bout 5 years ago...after about 6 months of trackdays twice a month, i pretty much quit street riding.

for the past 5 years i've been racing, i've been on a racetrack on average about 3 weekends out of the month every month besides nov, dec, and jan.

i've recently gone back to street riding and now less riding on the track. you'll find your way into the track (and/or) race scene.... but sooner or later, i'm sure you'll find your way back to the street. so i wouldn't call it quitting, just putting it on hold.

if you really wanna excel, you gotta upgrade your status from trackday hero to racer in training. don't worry too much about getting rusty in between trackdays or race weekends, after a few laps, you'll be back to normal.
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bout 5 years ago...after about 6 months of trackdays twice a month, i pretty much quit street riding.

for the past 5 years i've been racing, i've been on a racetrack on average about 3 weekends out of the month every month besides nov, dec, and jan.

i've recently gone back to street riding and now less riding on the track. you'll find your way into the track (and/or) race scene.... but sooner or later, i'm sure you'll find your way back to the street. so i wouldn't call it quitting, just putting it on hold.

if you really wanna excel, you gotta upgrade your status from trackday hero to racer in training. don't worry too much about getting rusty in between trackdays or race weekends, after a few laps, you'll be back to normal.


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Old 04-20-2011, 01:26 PM   #83
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I recently sold my streetbike and bought a track only bike. I made the commitment to go track only for myself and my wife's peace of mind. There's just too many crazy drivers on the streets and the track is a much safer environment. No worries about debris, cops, or soccer moms not paying attention and there's an ambulance crew on standby at all times.

I made a yearly budget and try to stick to it (very hard to do! So much I want!). I have a list of all the close trackdays going on each month and I'm trying to make at least 1 a month. I also bought a HF trailer and hitch for my Accord. It's working out so far.

Maybe you could do a pro's / con's list and make the best decision for you.
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Bumping this up, because of some people today wondering what happens you get into track and how the "streets" become boring...

Few POV's from some REALLY fast guys...
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Some people are just slow learners and don't get it sometimes...

Still waiting for you to get your bike so we can do some trackdays or another Navasota ride
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I'm not a fast guy. Let's be clear about that. But I may have a fresh POV.

I wanted a sport bike for the longest time. Growing up on dirt bikes what I really wanted was to race around a track on sport bikes. When I was 21 I bought my first street bike, a cruiser. I knew from other peoples' experiences it might be best to get my feet wet on the street with a cruiser first. A year later I could no longer fight the itch. I sold my cruiser, AND my car to get what I wanted. I still had no idea where to even start to get involved with racing, and didn't even know TDs existed yet, but I had my bike.

I made a big sacrifice to get it. That was now my only transportation, other than my girlfriends' car, who lived with me. Riding 30 miles one way to work 6 days a week racked up a lot of miles, fast, along with loooong weekend rides to ride twisties. What sucked was, the only learning, to speak of, I could do was either following someone through turns, or internet research. MH is how I found out about TDs, and it took a member spending the time to tell me all that's involved, how to do it, and all that I had to gain from them.

I hit the track last year, having about 8 months experience on my sport bike (20K miles though).

I was hooked, from the first day. This year, I'm still riding to work every day, but I'm also planning to hit the track hard and heavy, as well as go through the formalities to prepare to race with the CMRA by 2013.

I'm at the point where I'm ready to buy a beat up truck to get to work, to save my bike for the track. I just can't get the same fix on the street. I love the street. It can be relaxing, enjoyable, and a blast, it just doesn't give me that fix. For me to ride my track pace on the street, there's just too many variables. Not enough traction, too many obsticles, traffic, and of course cops. With all that it's almost impossible to go on a fast paced ride without some sort of issue or close call.

For example. Racers Road, the ever popular "twisty" road out west, used to be one of my favorite roads. It was a rush, a challenge at a fast pace, all that. Now I'd have to ride that road much to fast to be remotely safe, in order to feel like I've pushed my limits, and exceeded them successfully, which is the whole point of the track.
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Some people are just slow learners and don't get it sometimes...

Still waiting for you to get your bike so we can do some trackdays or another Navasota ride
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I'm not a fast guy. Let's be clear about that. But I may have a fresh POV.

I wanted a sport bike for the longest time. Growing up on dirt bikes what I really wanted was to race around a track on sport bikes. When I was 21 I bought my first street bike, a cruiser. I knew from other peoples' experiences it might be best to get my feet wet on the street with a cruiser first. A year later I could no longer fight the itch. I sold my cruiser, AND my car to get what I wanted. I still had no idea where to even start to get involved with racing, and didn't even know TDs existed yet, but I had my bike.

I made a big sacrifice to get it. That was now my only transportation, other than my girlfriends' car, who lived with me. Riding 30 miles one way to work 6 days a week racked up a lot of miles, fast, along with loooong weekend rides to ride twisties. What sucked was, the only learning, to speak of, I could do was either following someone through turns, or internet research. MH is how I found out about TDs, and it took a member spending the time to tell me all that's involved, how to do it, and all that I had to gain from them.

I hit the track last year, having about 8 months experience on my sport bike (20K miles though).

I was hooked, from the first day. This year, I'm still riding to work every day, but I'm also planning to hit the track hard and heavy, as well as go through the formalities to prepare to race with the CMRA by 2013.

I'm at the point where I'm ready to buy a beat up truck to get to work, to save my bike for the track. I just can't get the same fix on the street. I love the street. It can be relaxing, enjoyable, and a blast, it just doesn't give me that fix. For me to ride my track pace on the street, there's just too many variables. Not enough traction, too many obsticles, traffic, and of course cops. With all that it's almost impossible to go on a fast paced ride without some sort of issue or close call.

For example. Racers Road, the ever popular "twisty" road out west, used to be one of my favorite roads. It was a rush, a challenge at a fast pace, all that. Now I'd have to ride that road much to fast to be remotely safe, in order to feel like I've pushed my limits, and exceeded them successfully, which is the whole point of the track.
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Awesome thread. I have never been on the track but hopefully will make it one day. Until now it's all street . Plus with the group I belong to enjoys our Sunday rides and meeting other riders.

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Awesome thread. I have never been on the track but hopefully will make it one day. Until now it's all street . Plus with the group I belong to enjoys our Sunday rides and meeting other riders.

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This is directed toward the trackday riders, not so much the racers unless you're talking about only trackdays.

How or When did you know when you were "done with the street"?
I signed up for my 3rd TD this year already and I'm finding it harder to find the motivation to put my plates, mirrors, fuses back on after each TD. I'm wanting to save my tires for the track and not use any street miles.

I get the racers point, they are on the track almost EVERY weekend. For the guys that don't race and only do TDs, how did you know you when you were done, and how do you continue to improve even though you're not on the track as much as the guys who race? With the break inbetween TDs I'm worried I'd "lose" some skill and earned seat experience.
I would say I fit the target you're asking about as a trackday rider. I haven't given up the street and I won't. But, I have my ZX10R in track body work now and I will more than likely NOT put street plastics back on it until I sell it sometime later. I use a 1994 Ducati 900 (944) SS/SP or the Duke II for street riding. They are perfect for street riding.

I do not need a ZX10R for street riding. I am not able to ride that bike on the track at anywhere near it's capabilities, so it is complete overkill for the street IMO. I enjoy the tard and 2V Duc much more out on the street. I like heading out for rides on the street and it is a great fix.

Someone mentioned the ego on street rides versus the track and I have never thought about it, but it is a great point. I know that the groups I ride with t the track all give each other a little grief, but it is all in good fun. When it comes down to it, we are all very respectful of each others skills (or lack of ) on the track and all are willing to help others whenever needed.

I enjoy track days for the peace and quite I experience while on the track to clear my head and the friendships I have developed in between sessions. Living 5 minutes from Lime Creek Road and the "Hill Country" makes keeping a street bike very easy, but even while back in Katy, I wouldn't have given up street riding.

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I would say I fit the target you're asking about as a trackday rider. I haven't given up the street and I won't. But, I have my ZX10R in track body work now and I will more than likely NOT put street plastics back on it until I sell it sometime later. I use a 1994 Ducati 900 (944) SS/SP or the Duke II for street riding. They are perfect for street riding.

I do not need a ZX10R for street riding. I am not able to ride that bike on the track at anywhere near it's capabilities, so it is complete overkill for the street IMO. I enjoy the tard and 2V Duc much more out on the street. I like heading out for rides on the street and it is a great fix.

Someone mentioned the ego on street rides versus the track and I have never thought about it, but it is a great point. I know that the groups I ride with t the track all give each other a little grief, but it is all in good fun. When it comes down to it, we are all very respectful of each others skills (or lack of ) on the track and all are willing to help others whenever needed.

I enjoy track days for the peace and quite I experience while on the track to clear my head and the friendships I have developed in between sessions. Living 5 minutes from Lime Creek Road and the "Hill Country" makes keeping a street bike very easy, but even while back in Katy, I wouldn't have given up street riding.

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Thanks for the input Staton. You DO have quite the stable. I think the first time I ever saw a Bimota was in your garage, when I bought that old GoPro from you....do you remember that???

Having separate motorcycles would be a completely different story I guess.
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Thanks for the input Staton. You DO have quite the stable. I think the first time I ever saw a Bimota was in your garage, when I bought that old GoPro from you....do you remember that???

Having separate motorcycles would be a completely different story I guess.
I do remember that, hope it worked out OK for you. I am down to three bikes now, although I may be picking up another tard soon.

I guess what I was getting at is if you have a "fast, newer, modern" sport bike, it is far more capable than you (or I, or anyone) can ride on the street at even 7/10ths. So using them at the track makes great sense. It is safer and there are countless positives to it.

I am also trying to say that you shouldn't necessarily give up street riding. The great thing is that you can grab a bike many disregard as "not being fast" or "old" and have a great time with them on the street for a very cheap entry fee. An older Hawk GT can be had for about 2K and you can have a blast street riding one with all 45-55 hp. You can also grab an older bandit 400, FZR600, CB-1, EX500, VF500 interceprtor, air cooled motard, and a ton of other bikes that you could fund about 40% of the purchase price for by selling your street plastics! Then buy used track plastics for cheap and still have the track bike covered.

I have had a blast on some street rides on a 20 year old Hawk GT and/or an FZR600 leading some modern liter bikes. A "slow" bike can be a blast to ride fast on the street.
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I dont ride one the street much as I used, but i dont like to do if from time to time. I just bought a second bike so i could have one just for the track and one for the street.
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I slowed down riding the streets on weekends when I started doing the math. I normally go out every weekend and end up spending over $50.00 on the outing. This included gas, food, etc... $50.00 x 4 = $200.00. That was more than a track day. So I started doing track once a month for less than that and bough gear with the difference. I still have a street bike but have not ridden since July of last year.
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I slowed down riding the streets on weekends when I started doing the math. I normally go out every weekend and end up spending over $50.00 on the outing. This included gas, food, etc... $50.00 x 4 = $200.00. That was more than a track day. So I started doing track once a month for less than that and bough gear with the difference. I still have a street bike but have not ridden since July of last year.
street is way cheaper than track. maybe you were riding to the tittay bars or something
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I never giving up the streets, I have a 600 and don't need a bigger one, risks are everywhere, just keep your head on and you are OK, I don't act stupid on the streets, I see cops often and they don't bug me. I mostly commute to school and back,
I'm happy with it, I right do another track day, who knows
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I'm happy with it, I right do another track day, who knows
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