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Old 04-19-2011, 03:04 PM   #41
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That's a good perspective Curt. Since I'm on the newer side of getting serious with the track, with less free time during the week, I'm not getting on the street. Working hard for that TD weekend I guess.
With all this track talk...

are you going to be at MSRH on the 7th and on the 30th? I AM!

Oh, and the Parade Laps on the 22nd.
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Bingo. I ride at max 80% of my skill level on the street because I'm so cautious about something happening and meeting a large inanimate object.
I want to really focus my skills in TDs. Not really getting the thrill from the street at all.

On the street however, you can practice whenever you want. TDs are sometimes few and far between on the calendar sometimes.
80%? that's more than me.. I tend to ride with 75% of my skills on the street.. but when it is a closed course/road down in mexico it's a different story.. granted I havent been to any TD but I've been to a few 2f2f roads in mexico
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just make your bike track only, its time. I personally have a ball on the streets still, but I also don't ride the same over and over. I also like traveling to other places to different roads. But its all made easier since I have a dedicated track bike
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I think it's another cycle people go through. I did almost every possible track day in 2008 and quite a few in 2009. On top of that did many members days at MSRH. I've learned that I enjoyed the track for the speed; honing cornering, braking, and throttle management skills; instructing and all the technical aspects of making a bike perform.

I have also learned that I enjoy the street. The great scenery, meeting lots of new folks, and the associate events.

The challenge is remember where to go to fulfill which goals. A street ride is not a track day.

With less free time, I'm going to the track less. But that doesn't mean I still don't enjoy a cruise on the street.
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I totally understand Curt's prospective, and it brings up an interesting point: why have a full-nuts supersport for the street? If everyone just wants to toodle along and enjoy the scenery (whilst avoiding dying because of inattentive cagers) why aren't naked bikes more popular? They're certainly more comfortable.

Secondly I have to say that, for me personally, I don't really enjoy the social aspect of street rides. I haven't done one in a while, for good reason, but it just seems that as soon as the kickstands go up..... you...its every man for himself. Also, there seems to be a lot more egos on street rides. Everyone in the paddock at a trackday is pretty chill.










EDIT: yea, that's right. If you come meet me at a trackday, I probably won't be mad at the world.
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just make your bike track only, its time. I personally have a ball on the streets still, but I also don't ride the same over and over. I also like traveling to other places to different roads. But its all made easier since I have a dedicated track bike
Word dude. If I bought another bike it'd be problem solved, especially one of those Italian broads you have in the garage.

I was looking forward to a new daily driver this year financially, but who knows. Maybe I'll do a few more TD's then re-evaluate the next 6-12 months again.
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I totally understand Curt's prospective, and it brings up an interesting point: why have a full-nuts supersport for the street? If everyone just wants to toodle along and enjoy the scenery (whilst avoiding dying because of inattentive cagers) why aren't naked bikes more popular? They're certainly more comfortable.

Secondly I have to say that, for me personally, I don't really enjoy the social aspect of street rides. I haven't done one in a while, for good reason, but it just seems that as soon as the kickstands go up..... you...its every man for himself. Also, there seems to be a lot more egos on street rides. Everyone in the paddock at a trackday is pretty chill.
EDIT: yea, that's right. If you come meet me at a trackday, I probably won't be mad at the world.
WHY??

For me?? its because that looks sexy!!

Now... WHY?

well... lets ask about cars!
Why have a Corvet Z06?
Why have an 911 turbo?
why have a Ferrari??
Why have a Fast bad car that you really cant get everything out of it on the streets??

why, why , why...
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I totally understand Curt's prospective, and it brings up an interesting point: why have a full-nuts supersport for the street? If everyone just wants to toodle along and enjoy the scenery (whilst avoiding dying because of inattentive cagers) why aren't naked bikes more popular? They're certainly more comfortable.

Secondly I have to say that, for me personally, I don't really enjoy the social aspect of street rides. I haven't done one in a while, for good reason, but it just seems that as soon as the kickstands go up..... you...its every man for himself. Also, there seems to be a lot more egos on street rides. Everyone in the paddock at a trackday is pretty chill.











EDIT: yea, that's right. If you come meet me at a trackday, I probably won't be mad at the world.

Thats the truth

Im just bored with the street like many others. I still ride it some, but the fun wears off no matter what different streets I ride. Plus I always worry about the cops & other dangers that wont let me push on the street. Tickets can/will affect my work & my livelyhood. So I will always want to hit the track again. Its too nice not having to worry about anything execept for where my markers are and keeping the bike upright.
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Secondly I have to say that, for me personally, I don't really enjoy the social aspect of street rides. I haven't done one in a while, for good reason, but it just seems that as soon as the kickstands go up..... you...its every man for himself. Also, there seems to be a lot more egos on street rides. Everyone in the paddock at a trackday is pretty chill.
Man, you have ridden with some messed up folks, I've been on rides like that before but I'v been on WAY more where is NOT like that AT ALL.

Actually, I think at the track is more of a you attitude... Maybe not in Novice (because of all the rules and people don't wanna get black flagged) but I see the way some of those passes are done on the upper levels. but I hear a lot of talking and egos at the track, but I kno it's in good fun

That's just my perspective.
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Man, you have ridden with some messed up folks, I've been on rides like that before but I'v been on WAY more where is NOT like that AT ALL.

Actually, I think at the track is more of a you attitude... Maybe not in Novice (because of all the rules and people don't wanna get black flagged) but I see the way some of those passes are done on the upper levels. but I hear a lot of talking and egos at the track, but I kno it's in good fun That's just my perspective.
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I think it has a lot to do with getting old... Having too many close calls or tickets and Houston drivers and road hazards it kills the fun about riding..

For me? I will always have a bike for streets, I'm working on putting my R6 for track use only because of all the you have to do to put ot back on the streets (I actually take everything off)

for the most part... I ride my bike because its relaxing, if you hit a back roads on a early morning with just a few friends for a little cruise, it doesn't matter how bad of a day you are having or how bad of a week you had at work... Everything goes away.

Now if you just wanna ride for the challenge and for the rush and enjoyment of competing with others then you will find that the streets its not the place for you.

I've been riding for 3 yrs now and been pulled over 15 times and have been given 3 tickets.. Some times you have to pay to play.
^^^ you didnt mention how many times you've gotten away
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^^^ you didnt mention how many times you've gotten away
This isn't the postwhore thread. I want decent info.

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Thats the truth

Im just bored with the street like many others. I still ride it some, but the fun wears off no matter what different streets I ride. Plus I always worry about the cops & other dangers that wont let me push on the street. Tickets can/will affect my work & my livelyhood. So I will always want to hit the track again. Its too nice not having to worry about anything execept for where my markers are and keeping the bike upright.



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Man, you have ridden with some messed up folks, I've been on rides like that before but I'v been on WAY more where is NOT like that AT ALL.

Actually, I think at the track is more of a you attitude... Maybe not in Novice (because of all the rules and people don't wanna get black flagged) but I see the way some of those passes are done on the upper levels. but I hear a lot of talking and egos at the track, but I kno it's in good fun

That's just my perspective.
from what i've seen mark is pretty much spot on.

get passed at the track and you dont really have much excuse - just acknowledge that they're faster. no biggie... street junkies always say stupid like 'mah fah-blayde kin take dat'. much more ego and always got some bs excuse for their riding. plenty of peeps even seem proud that they get a lot of tickets.
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^^^ you didnt mention how many times you've gotten away
Hey!!! SHUT UP!

We dont talk about that in here.... We're talking about track riding and street riding...
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from what i've seen mark is pretty much spot on.

get passed at the track and you dont really have much excuse - just acknowledge that they're faster. no biggie... street junkies always say stupid like 'mah fah-blayde kin take dat'. much more ego and always got some bs excuse for their riding. plenty of peeps even seem proud that they get a lot of tickets.
I guess you guys have ridden with the wrong people. sorry.



But back to the point...


I can see me dedicating my bigger bike for Track and getting a 250 for street... unless I want to go Lightweight.
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I guess you guys have ridden with the wrong people. sorry.



But back to the point...


I can see me dedicating my bigger bike for Track and getting a 250 for street... unless I want to go Lightweight.
since when did you get a big bike
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I just picked my bike up from the shop getting a new clutch and tires. I loved riding the streets before getting this work dOne. While the bike was in the shop I had 3 friends end up in the hospital due to bike wrecks. All 3 are still there and it's been over a month one will never live on his own again, one lost a leg, one is recovering ok. On top of that I've lost enough friends on the street. Currently workin on changing my bike into a track
Didn't know where you were going with that at first, but I agree.
When I first started, I'd try to get a rush from hwy exhange ramps, and then we had like 3 people 2 years ago fall off of them. I quit railing those after that all together.

Even more reason to ride the track for me.
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That's why I rarely ride with random people.
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Man, you have ridden with some messed up folks, I've been on rides like that before but I'v been on WAY more where is NOT like that AT ALL.

Actually, I think at the track is more of a you attitude... Maybe not in Novice (because of all the rules and people don't wanna get black flagged) but I see the way some of those passes are done on the upper levels. but I hear a lot of talking and egos at the track, but I kno it's in good fun

That's just my perspective.

I've heard that about a particular org's mid level sessions.

Speaking from personal experience attending Fastline days in intermediate and LSTD Fridays in the street group at TWS (Texas World Speedway) I've never had a negative experience with another rider. There have been some close calls, as does happen with mixed skill levels and people trying to push themselves, but every single incident resulted in rider's checking with each other in the pits to make sure everyone was okay and nobody did something wrong.

And witnessing passes in upper levels on the sidelines from a Novice perspective can be pretty intimidating. I remember my first TD with Groove Union watching the intermediate guys on the track and thinking I'm going to stay in Novice forever. After finally moving up to intermediate I've found the riders to be the most accomodating and friendly guys out there. And the passing isn't so nearly as close as it looks from the sidelines.
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