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Old 04-19-2011, 11:13 AM   #1
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Done with the street...

This is directed toward the trackday riders, not so much the racers unless you're talking about only trackdays.

How or When did you know when you were "done with the street"?
I signed up for my 3rd TD this year already and I'm finding it harder to find the motivation to put my plates, mirrors, fuses back on after each TD. I'm wanting to save my tires for the track and not use any street miles.

I get the racers point, they are on the track almost EVERY weekend. For the guys that don't race and only do TDs, how did you know you when you were done, and how do you continue to improve even though you're not on the track as much as the guys who race? With the break inbetween TDs I'm worried I'd "lose" some skill and earned seat experience.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:15 AM   #2
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If you're able to practice the skills necessary to ride a bike fast while street riding, you're just going too fast as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:17 AM   #3
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track is too expensive for me to do every weekend.. i still like riding on the street and going off the grid, checking the sights, taking some time to chill.. i'd probably still ride the backroads even if i could afford a td every week.

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If you're able to practice the skills necessary to ride a bike fast while street riding, you're just going too fast as far as I'm concerned.
and this. gotta go way too fast to stay safe.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:18 AM   #4
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If you're able to practice the skills necessary to ride a bike fast while street riding, you're just going too fast as far as I'm concerned.
Bingo. I ride at max 80% of my skill level on the street because I'm so cautious about something happening and meeting a large inanimate object.
I want to really focus my skills in TDs. Not really getting the thrill from the street at all.

On the street however, you can practice whenever you want. TDs are sometimes few and far between on the calendar sometimes.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:19 AM   #5
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i did my first 2 trackdays last year and soon after made my r6 a trackbike. I have ridden the street maybe 6-7 times between then and now. All that worry about losing skill goes away after the first session. Granted i am putting together a street bike but its really only for little meets and stuff
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It was a few things for me:
  • Getting pulled over by LEOs on the way to known riding roads because they were tired of complaints and scraping up bikers.
  • Realized that street riding only instilled bad habits so any seat time gained was negated by improper techniques reinforced.
  • Needing to go faster and faster on the street to find the enjoyment I was getting at the track.
  • Riding 30 minutes to do 6 curves when one TD was 13 turns per lap with 19-20 laps per session with 5-6 sessions.

To make up for the urge to ride in between TDs we got involved in minis. Parking lot racing can be done every weekend for minimal cost and maximum fun.

Maybe if this was Colorado or California or some other place with lots of local twisties it would be different.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:24 AM   #7
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I do trackdays about once every Month, maybe twice if Im lucky, I have a street bike and find it less amusing to even go out and have fun on it..Even not having to replace the plates or tape I still find it hard to get motivated to go play...I really just have my street bike just in CASE I choose to do a meet and greet and still find it hard to make those...I never thought I would ever be like this, but I have fallen into that trackday mentality...I have thought about converting my street bike into a trackday back up but without it being paid off I am hesitant to put all my eggs in one basket, but I guess only time will tell...putting the plates and the peeling the tape is not the reason i dont ride street..thats the east part, getting over the part not having fun and sitting in the sun HOT for minimal kicks is my mental
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:26 AM   #8
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Get a motard for the street. We live in a city with no twisties and no hills. You don't need either to have fun on a motard. Save the sport bike for the track and the occasional long trip. Just .02 from a recent convert.
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It was a few things for me:
  • Getting pulled over by LEOs on the way to known riding roads because they were tired of complaints and scraping up bikers.
  • Realized that street riding only instilled bad habits so any seat time gained was negated by improper techniques reinforced.
  • Needing to go faster and faster on the street to find the enjoyment I was getting at the track.
  • Riding 30 minutes to do 6 curves when one TD was 13 turns per lap with 19-20 laps per session with 5-6 sessions.

To make up for the urge to ride in between TDs we got involved in minis. Parking lot racing can be done every weekend for minimal cost and maximum fun.

Maybe if this was Colorado or California or some other place with lots of local twisties it would be different.

well put...i'm slowly starting to lean in this direction.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:47 AM   #11
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It was a few things for me:
  • Getting pulled over by LEOs on the way to known riding roads because they were tired of complaints and scraping up bikers.
  • Realized that street riding only instilled bad habits so any seat time gained was negated by improper techniques reinforced.
  • Needing to go faster and faster on the street to find the enjoyment I was getting at the track.
  • Riding 30 minutes to do 6 curves when one TD was 13 turns per lap with 19-20 laps per session with 5-6 sessions.

To make up for the urge to ride in between TDs we got involved in minis. Parking lot racing can be done every weekend for minimal cost and maximum fun.
Spot on. Never thought about getting into minis, but I don't have a truck to haul around.

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I do trackdays about once every Month, maybe twice if Im lucky, I have a street bike and find it less amusing to even go out and have fun on it..Even not having to replace the plates or tape I still find it hard to get motivated to go play...I really just have my street bike just in CASE I choose to do a meet and greet and still find it hard to make those...I never thought I would ever be like this, but I have fallen into that trackday mentality...I have thought about converting my street bike into a trackday back up but without it being paid off I am hesitant to put all my eggs in one basket, but I guess only time will tell...putting the plates and the peeling the tape is not the reason i dont ride street..thats the east part, getting over the part not having fun and sitting in the sun HOT for minimal kicks is my mental
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George, do you ever feel like you're loosing some of that "edge" inbetween TDs though?

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Get a motard for the street. We live in a city with no twisties and no hills. You don't need either to have fun on a motard. Save the sport bike for the track and the occasional long trip. Just .02 from a recent convert.
Man I started on HD's and would love to get another, but while I make plenty enough to do TDs, buying a tard isn't in the budget. Got some bigger purchases in mind the next two years. Would be pretty awesome to ride one of those though!
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:48 AM   #12
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I bought my R6 and rode for a few days in the street after I bought it, that is when I realized that Houston streets are BORING.

About 3 months after I do that bike, I did my first track day with a, now extinct, company named Texas Track Days. After that I lost the interest in riding the streets. I made my R6 a track bike.

At some point during 2009, I decided I wanted to ride street again, and as someone suggested, I bought a 'tard. That was a big mistake, I rode that bike 3 times in the street, I got two tickets. So I sold that sh*t and I do track only now.

As someone mentioned, if we were in Colorado or California, maybe I would still be riding the street but, since we are not, I prefer to ride the track only.
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I would rather do TDs than hounded by the Police...I get my rocks off and its enough for me..As far as Racing I have no urge to Race...YET! I dont know when I will be ready to take Racing on but for now TDs once or twice a month get me off..I feel I get better understanding the bikes dynamics every trackday the only time Im shakey is when the season is over
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:53 AM   #14
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Once you air it out in third over some railroad tracks, rail some corners, slide it around in the dirt, wreck it, pick it up and dust it off only to realize there isn't any damage, hit up some jogging trails then look down at your watch and realize you've only been riding for an hour you will be hooked.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:57 AM   #15
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i took a ride to Louisiana a few months ago.

i used to love riding back roads fast... but i had no fun riding in rain with a helmet sheild full of bugs. watching mindless people text and mess with their phone while driving with a knee.

also riding for an hour or so to find a good road to ride on, only to find the police are already there. it's just not fun any more.

and maybe i'm getting old too
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:07 PM   #16
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I just like riding the track WAY more than the street. Ever time I get on the street its and challenge of survival.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:11 PM   #17
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I enjoy street a lot, butI see how it's hard to really get the enjoymentof the track without being too "spirited"... I have been throwing around the Idea of getting a 250 for the street and keep my F4i as a track bike (it's beat up enough as it is)... Or maybe do it vice versa...

I dunno about giving the streets up for good, I really like meeting the new people and attempt to help them out here and there on somethings I've learned along the way (I know I have much to learn) from the advise a lot of really good and responsible riders have given me.


Track FTMFW... Everyone should do at least 1 TRACK DAY once you do it, you will know why it's worth it. And I'm working on helping people get there and get motivated to.

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I never made a concrete decision to get off the streets. I had a 750 race bike and a 1000 for the street. I decided that I wanted to race the 1000 and what made the most sense was to sell the 750 and turn my 1000 into a race bike. That left me without a street bike.

I'll probably have another street bike at some point, but it will be a more upright sport / touring bike. I'm done doing 150+ on the backroads and those bikes are sorry for just crusing around. If I'm going to take in the fresh air and scenery then I am going to do it comfortably.
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Once you air it out in third over some railroad tracks, rail some corners, slide it around in the dirt, wreck it, pick it up and dust it off only to realize there isn't any damage, hit up some jogging trails then look down at your watch and realize you've only been riding for an hour you will be hooked.
video please! 3rd gear on the 510 must range between 35-65mph. . .I would love to see you hitting railroad tracks and "air it out" at that speed.


My last street legal motorcycle was a KTM 525SMR. I can honestly say it was one of my favorite bikes to rip around town on and I still got bored with it on these damned Houston streets. I must agree with you though, riding a firebreathing motard through town raises the fun level and negates the need for "high speed runs" at the same time.
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I never made a concrete decision to get off the streets. I had a 750 race bike and a 1000 for the street. I decided that I wanted to race the 1000 and what made the most sense was to sell the 750 and turn my 1000 into a race bike. That left me without a street bike.

I'll probably have another street bike at some point, but it will be a more upright sport / touring bike. I'm done doing 150+ on the backroads and those bikes are sorry for just crusing around. If I'm going to take in the fresh air and scenery then I am going to do it comfortably.
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