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View Poll Results: Cafe racer-esque Bonneville or Dual Sport
Bonneville 13 54.17%
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:19 PM   #1
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Triumph Bonneville or Dual Sport

Being 19, insurance on a sport related bike is a joke so my next bike will be either a bonneville, which ill mod into a cafe racer ( clubman bars, chopped fender and such) or some sort of dual sport (I like the look of the last gen KLRs). I'm leaning towards the triumph cause I don't think a dual sport will be much of an upgrade from the ninja 250 (It will be on the road almost all the time). What are your thoughts?
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:37 PM   #2
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Thats what Im leaning towards.

This video may of won me over:

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Old 04-18-2011, 11:58 PM   #4
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Depends on your budget and what your looking for. Creating a cafe racer out of a modern bonneville can cost some dough if you want it to look nice. They are nice to look at and really cool but to be honest if it isn't vintage it ain't a cafe racer. There is a lot of aftermarket support to do it but some of it is expensive. A dual sport is cheap and fun and it's probably just as fast as the bonneville depending on which one you get. I have a Triumph America with the same engine as the Bonneville and my motard is twice as fast. The Japanese dual sports are just as fast as well. When you put the clubman bars and what not on there you take away from long distance comfort and if you line up two bike that are about the same speed and aren't comfortable for really long rides you might as well go with the dual sport in my opinion. It's way more fun. Yeah it will be on the road most of the time but when you have the option of going offroad you will be suprised at how often it happens and how your preference for rides changes. Imagine being on a forest ride hitting some twisties and then actually taking a forest ride. FUN. If you want to have a better and much smoother highway bike then get the Triumph. If you want to have some fun and act like a 12 year old with a new bicycle then get the dual sport. Just my .02. You can beat the out of the Japanese dual sports and just pick them and ride off. They are a rider's bike. There is something liberating about not giving a whether or not you drop the bike.
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I thought you were talking about a modern bonneville. If you are considering an actual vintage cafe racer get a Honda. I had a 67 bonny whose engine had be redone by a guru and it still had a lot of problems. If that's your thing then go for it. If you want one you with some reliability to it then get a Honda. A friend of mine had one redone about 5 years ago and rides it everyday. It's in the shop once a year and it's never anything too big.
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I thought you were talking about a modern bonneville. If you are considering an actual vintage cafe racer get a Honda. I had a 67 bonny whose engine had be redone by a guru and it still had a lot of problems. If that's your thing then go for it. If you want one you with some reliability to it then get a Honda. A friend of mine had one redone about 5 years ago and rides it everyday. It's in the shop once a year and it's never anything too big.
I do mean modern bonny, preferable 08+ EFI, I realize its not old so its not a true cafe racer. But with clubman bars, rear fender eliminator,bar mirrors, 2-1 exhaust, seat cowl and other things done down the line it will look and have the soul of a cafe racer. I have already spent hours on British Customs and New Bonneville sites picturing what I want to do. What dual sport would be the quickest
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I'd recommend if you're taking this route, just start with a thruxton. The bonnevilles are super short and drag pegs and exhaust very quickly if you're at all pushing it.
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I'd recommend if you're taking this route, just start with a thruxton. The bonnevilles are super short and drag pegs and exhaust very quickly if you're at all pushing it.
I looked into this. Insurance jumps up a lot surprisingly from bonny to thruxton.
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Before I vote, does a motard like a KTM 690smc count as a dual sport to you? Those look like a ton of fun, or if you are doing only street I love the 690 Dukes!
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yes that counts lol.
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yes that counts lol.
I'm voting dual sport then just because I wish I had a KTM Duke.
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I do mean modern bonny, preferable 08+ EFI, I realize its not old so its not a true cafe racer. But with clubman bars, rear fender eliminator,bar mirrors, 2-1 exhaust, seat cowl and other things done down the line it will look and have the soul of a cafe racer. I have already spent hours on British Customs and New Bonneville sites picturing what I want to do. What dual sport would be the quickest
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There are all sorts of bikes that are kind of considered dual sports. Depends on a lot of factors. Price, weight, maintenance, power. Unlike sport bikes where you have a couple different classes and the difference between factory offerings is splitting hairs there is a big difference in the different dual sports you can get. You can get a 250, 400, 450, 500, 550, 625, 630, 640, 650, 690, 990, 1000, 1100, 1200 the list goes on and on. Just do some research. You can get a big fast bmw that is great on the highway but kind of heavy for offroading or you could get a DRZ that is great off road, light, but slower. +1 on the Thruxton.
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How well does a 650 dual sport perform on freeways and acceleration? (KLR, DR, XR650L would prob be the choices due to cost).
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How well does a 650 dual sport perform on freeways and acceleration? (KLR, DR, XR650L would prob be the choices due to cost).
Not great, those are all off road bikes with headlights. Really depends on which tires/wheels setup you've got goin on.
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bonneville is a fun road bike & classy preference. ive always seen the dual sports as bikes made for fun and function, everyone ive seen riding them has luggage and carries everything but spare tires with them.
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get a V-Strom if you are thinking of a dual sport with 99% road use and 1% off-road. There are some nice ones from 2004-5 for cheap. The 650 get about 65ish HP and has descent handling. The 1000cc gets about 100HP.

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i am going to be honest imo i would go cafe. I had a ratty cb750 cafe that i loved. you want to talk about getting the thumbs up from anybody on any bike whether it was a dual sport, harley, chopper, sportbike or goldwing. cafe bikes are undeniably cool. Right now i am building a gs1100 pseudo cafe dragbike.
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