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Old 04-10-2011, 09:01 AM   #21
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:02 AM   #22
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I went and looked at local dealership, and was actually shopping for a 10 R1 and saw the 11 ZX-10 and I dont like Kawi. But sure did peak interests, it is a nice looking bike, but only color I could do is the black. The puke green or light blue ect hmm just cant do it.

As for insurance, was it considered expensive. I priced liter bikes a year or so ago and full coverage was 85 or so a month, through SF. Unless things have changed I dont really consider that all that much..

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Old 04-10-2011, 09:04 AM   #23
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why dont u just buy used in cash and pay for liability ins only?
Hmm even buying cash, I would have full coverage. Considering the rate these things get stolen, I sure would hate to have someone walk off with 10K of my money and nothin to show for it. Look at how many people just off this board have had there stolen, or that owe on it and put liability only. WOW that sure would suck
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:07 AM   #24
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I just came back from a Kawasaki Dealership and had a wonderful chance to sit on both a 2011 ZX6r and 2011 ZX10r. Both bikes feel phenomenal for a SS...only 1" taller than what I am used to (2009 Kawasaki 650r) and the bars are widely set apart for a SS, making it very comfortable for a SS. Here are spec comparisons...

2011 ZX6r
Wheelbase: 55.1"
Seat Height: 32.1"
Weight (dry): 421lb
Hp: 108hp @ 14,100rpm
Tq: 42.9lb @ 12,000rpm
Price: $10,000OTD~ (negotiable)

2011 ZX10r
Wheelbase: 56.1" (+1)
Seat Height: 32" (/)
Weight (dry): 459lb (+38lb)
Hp: 197hp @ 13,000rpm
Tq: 82.6lb @ 11,500rpm
Price: $14,500OTD~ (+$4500/not-as-negotiable)

Generally, the only real difference between these bikes are the weight, price and power. But here's the real intriguing (and appealing) thing about the zx10r...it has 3 power settings, including LOW where it cuts power down to 50-60% and MEDIUM where it cuts down power to 75% and finally HIGH where it has all 200hp~. The LOW setting would be about the same as the power of a ZX6r.

My question to you is would it be worthwhile buying a ZX10r and use it in LOW POWER instead of buying a ZX6r? The ZX10r is more expensive, but it has the latest technology and can 'grow', so-to-speak, with the rider. Or is it better to not skip any steps in learning and buy a ZX6r?

Rider has 1 1/2 years + 28,000mi + 5 trackdays (novice) of riding experience on an upright Ninja 650r which will be kept for street/commute. ZX6r or ZX10r would be used for 25% street (mixed with 650r) and 100% track, longterm.
166 at the wheel is more realistic
http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthre...ight=2011+dyno
it will need at least a reflash to achieve what kawi engineers developed.
i'm thinking a leftover 2010 zx10 and the extra $4k in the pocket might be a beta deal
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I went and looked at local dealership, and was actually shopping for a 10 R1 and saw the 11 ZX-10 and I dont like Kawi. But sure did peak interests, it is a nice looking bike, but only color I could do is the black. The puke green or light blue ect hmm just cant do it.

As for insurance, was it considered expensive. I priced liter bikes a year or so ago and full coverage was 85 or so a month, through SF. Unless things have changed I dont really consider that all that much..

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Kawi green is what it is, I like the color on the dirt bikes. But the street bike, just not really my thing.

As for me handeling it ya okay

They are pretty bada$$ considering the little amount of mods needed and it gets to 190rwhp.

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I'm not much for in your face colors. But for Kawi green, I'd make an exception. But it has to bright that really bright light green.
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I'm not much for in your face colors. But for Kawi green, I'd make an exception. But it has to bright that really bright light green.
I was looking pretty hard at it for sure, still thinking about a new bike. But rigth now it is a though, and priced some things. Just working on the car right now, but might stop on it for a few months to buy bike and mod it out. hmm who knows time will tell, but the ZX-10 is one sweet ride now days, color or not that bike is just a BAD

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Old 04-10-2011, 11:22 AM   #31
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Hmm even buying cash, I would have full coverage. Considering the rate these things get stolen, I sure would hate to have someone walk off with 10K of my money and nothin to show for it. Look at how many people just off this board have had there stolen, or that owe on it and put liability only. WOW that sure would suck
You can get liability plus theft protection without going the FC route.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:30 AM   #32
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They all have lower power mode. Its the throttle.
Best post in this thread.

While the A,B,C modes can help, they are a crutch. Plus the bike automtically defaults to A mode everytime it's started.
What happens the one time you forget to put it in C and grab a handful of throttle. I'm with Blue, learn to use the throttle without any crutches.

The last thing is insurance. Liter bikes are MUCH more expensive than 600's to insure, especially full coverage. As cheap as you are you better be sitting down when you get your quote.
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you get the quote. My bike insurance is higher than any of the cars I own today, or have ever owned. Ridiculous.
for my 09zx10r.
I only pay $100 a year for the required min. liab.
it was $450 w/comp, and like $1400 for everything.

no tickets, way over 25, from work to home only

the 10 is a beast.... if you play! you will pay!
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for my 09zx10r.
I only pay $100 a year for the required min. liab.
it was $450 w/comp, and like $1400 for everything.

no tickets, way over 25, from work to home only

the 10 is a beast.... if you play! you will pay!
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be careful on either one you choose!!

That extremely cheap compared to what many of us are paying for liter bikes. Do you live in Harris county? What company are you with?
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:44 PM   #35
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I remember calling last last year for 2009 ZX6r quotes and they were pretty bad but I wonder if the ZX10r will be more or less? Aren't 600cc SSs more costly with insurance than 1000cc SSs?
Smaller bikes are more at Sate Farm according to my agent. My DR650 was going to cost way more than my RC51 at SF. My agent said they were higher on bikes under 800cc IIRC. He actually sent me to Progressive for the DR.
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One additional thought:

I can't speak for the 6R, but I've been looking at the new 10R since they announced it, it WILL be my next bike.

Having said that, there is no way that I would buy the 2011. Almost anytime a company introduces a completely reworked bike, there are issues. This bike is one of the most electronically advanced bikes out there. There's already been one recall and I'm betting there will be a couple more. I'm waiting for the 2012 models personally.

The instructor in me also says to get the 600. I agree with everything Patrick said above.

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$100/year for BOTH the 10R and 12R (liability). Getting old has advantages.
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For whatever it's worth, I currently pay $450/year @ $1k deductable for the 650r - Extended Liability and Uninsured Motorist with Allstate. I am 34 years old, have a clean record and have completed MSF so that's good, but I live in Galveston County (high in alcohol/motorcycle accidents) so that's bad.

Adding a ZX10r ABS with MSF and Multiple-Bike Coverage @ full coverage will raise my insurance to $3500/year! They are going to give me another quote where they will drop Uninsured Motorists and Extended Liability on both bikes, which should bring total coverage to $2700~/year.

The ZX6r is about $500 less/year.

I tried Geico and it was $3500/year just for the ZX10r alone.

Progressive doesn't insure trackdays from my understanding.
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my 09zx6r is 1320 a year full coverage
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