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Old 04-09-2011, 05:58 PM   #1
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Question 2009-11 ZX6r vs 2011 ZX10r (Low Power Mode)

I just came back from a Kawasaki Dealership and had a wonderful chance to sit on both a 2011 ZX6r and 2011 ZX10r. Both bikes feel phenomenal for a SS...only 1" taller than what I am used to (2009 Kawasaki 650r) and the bars are widely set apart for a SS, making it very comfortable for a SS. Here are spec comparisons...

2011 ZX6r
Wheelbase: 55.1"
Seat Height: 32.1"
Weight (dry): 421lb
Hp: 108hp @ 14,100rpm
Tq: 42.9lb @ 12,000rpm
Price: $10,000OTD~ (negotiable)

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Wheelbase: 56.1" (+1)
Seat Height: 32" (/)
Weight (dry): 459lb (+38lb)
Hp: 197hp @ 13,000rpm
Tq: 82.6lb @ 11,500rpm
Price: $14,500OTD~ (+$4500/not-as-negotiable)

Generally, the only real difference between these bikes are the weight, price and power. But here's the real intriguing (and appealing) thing about the zx10r...it has 3 power settings, including LOW where it cuts power down to 50-60% and MEDIUM where it cuts down power to 75% and finally HIGH where it has all 200hp~. The LOW setting would be about the same as the power of a ZX6r.

My question to you is would it be worthwhile buying a ZX10r and use it in LOW POWER instead of buying a ZX6r? The ZX10r is more expensive, but it has the latest technology and can 'grow', so-to-speak, with the rider. Or is it better to not skip any steps in learning and buy a ZX6r?

Rider has 1 1/2 years + 28,000mi + 5 trackdays (novice) of riding experience on an upright Ninja 650r which will be kept for street/commute. ZX6r or ZX10r would be used for 25% street (mixed with 650r) and 100% track, longterm.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:01 PM   #2
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You are a big guy, Ormand. You aren't some squid that can't handle a throttle. Don't be afraid to buy the liter bike.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:03 PM   #3
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Btw, the gixxer has a similar adjustable map... A, b, and c mode. C mode is low power. I've used it on the track when it's wet. It definitely take ALL the edge off the bike. B mode provides full power up high but reduces the power on the low end. A mode is full power.
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They all have lower power mode. Its the throttle.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:05 PM   #5
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You are a big guy, Ormand. You aren't some squid that can't handle a throttle. Don't be afraid to buy the liter bike.
I value your input Curt - thanks! I never really considered a ZX10r until I did the math/spec comparisons. It doesn't look like the 09-11 ZX6rs are going as cheap OTD as they did last year...so between that and the ZX10rs newest technology/power/adjustable-power, the 10r is looking very appealing.

I will call Monday for insurance quotes - not sure what the differences will be but that could be a deal breaker.
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Insurance. Ha ha ha ha. Be sitting down whe
you get the quote. My bike insurance is higher than any of the cars I own today, or have ever owned. Ridiculous.
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Insurance. Ha ha ha ha. Be sitting down whe
you get the quote. My bike insurance is higher than any of the cars I own today, or have ever owned. Ridiculous.
I remember calling last last year for 2009 ZX6r quotes and they were pretty bad but I wonder if the ZX10r will be more or less? Aren't 600cc SSs more costly with insurance than 1000cc SSs?
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The key word "sport bike" will bump up any insurance....lol
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:16 PM   #9
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I don't know. I've only owned big bikes except for the Aprilia SXV 550. It was about half that of the gixxer. The gixxer is about 30% more than the GT3.
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I'll get the 10 if it was me... U can always take it easy and if u want the power its there... Not like the little 6.
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@75% power is still at 150. Can you get a reduction in insurance in you only run in low power mode?
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Do you mean to say that power is cut by 25% in medium setting and not 75%? 150 hp what I caculate at that setting vs 50 HP at 75%? Just checking.
Low = 50-60% usable power = 100-110hp~
Medium = 75% usable power = 150hp~
Hugh = 100% usable power = 200hp~

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I don't know. I've only owned big bikes except for the Aprilia SXV 550. It was about half that of the gixxer. The gixxer is about 30% more than the GT3.
full coverage for my busa is the same as the viper, the busa is about 1/6 the KBB value of the viper now.
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I'm older than most of you, clean record......$3000/yr for full coverage.
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I prefer litre bikes on the street and 600's on the track. I like having that extra bit of torque to be able to pass on highways with out shifting or riding above 10k RPM. The extra weight helps smooth out the ride as well. I'd say go for it.
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have you considered the bmw s1000rr? it's actually similarly priced as the 10r, but it has much more midrange power. i'd go with the 10r anyways just bc i've always been a kawi fan, but wouldn't overlook the bmw.
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I'd go for the 10R every day, but I know how cheap you are. You're going to hate paying insurance on either. ESPECIALLY the 10.
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why dont u just buy used in cash and pay for liability ins only?
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why dont u just buy used in cash and pay for liability ins only?
Not everyone goes with FC just because they have to. It's called insurance for a reason.
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