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Old 09-18-2006, 08:10 AM   #1
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MCN did a test at Cadwell. They bought a 93 YZF750, a 96 CBR900RR and a 96 ZX7R and tried to get them within 5 sec of a 06 GSXR1000. Needless to say the SALVAGED 93 YZF750 ran 1.6 sec slower than the gix1k The other 2 were under 3 sec slower
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Old 09-18-2006, 08:19 AM   #2
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thats impressive #'s, some riders have it and some of don't
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Old 09-18-2006, 08:32 AM   #3
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While I think that's true, how about a different test:
Take an average rider and put him on all 4 bikes, how much difference will there be then? I'd venture to say a larger gap.

Now go one step further, take a novice rider and put him on the same equipment. He'll be much slower on the older bikes because you have to have some skill to ride them fast.

Now put that same novice rider on the GSXR1000.
The bike is so good it almost rides itself, therefore it masks the riders shortcomings.

Unfortunately, the day comes, usually mid-corner at a high rate of speed, when the GSXR says: "o.k., you're the pilot, do something."
Unfortunately the novice rider hasn't learned much because he hasn't had too, so he goes down.

I guess what I'm saying is that although todays bikes are so good, many people get caught up in the lie that it's going to make them a better rider, when in a lot of cases it hampers their learning curve, and they find themselves in a situation where there is no time for recovery.
The less focused bikes wouldn't lead you down the garden path of speed so easily, you had to take the bike there yourself.
My 2 cents.
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Old 09-18-2006, 08:58 AM   #4
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i'll agree with that Patrick.
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it was hard as **** to ride that zx7r but rode right bye alot of newer bikes with slow riders
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:03 AM   #6
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:08 AM   #7
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Then move back from the tank.:laughing6

But seriously you kinda made my point in an offhand way;
You learned that a certain bike does something.
For instance, a YZF750 likes to stand up when on the brakes, so if you rode one you learned to do one of 2 things; You either got all of your braking done before you entered the turn, or you applied extra input to the inside bar as you applied the brakes.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:33 AM   #8
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:27 AM   #9
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Kind of like some of the magazines doing shootouts lately, the fastest/most powerful bike doesn't always equate to the fastest lap times.
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On the track, it's not what you have it's how you can use it. Why used these 750 or bigger and older bikes? 600's would do the same.
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i totally agree with you patrick. i started on a 86 VFR700, then a 90 FZR 1000. not exactly 600's but no performance beasts either. i didnt even realize what id learned, i didnt know any different, so it was just how it was to me.

i ran over an inner tube or something the other day with my SRAD (you know my SRAD ;p). well the ohlins steering damper came through, and while i got a little wiggle and shake it wasnt that bad. i still had to use skill i learned from the older bikes, but without the damper, my chances for going down would have been alot greater.

someday im going to have me a shiny bike right outta the crate, but im not going to forget the VFR and how much i had to work to ride it. new bikes really do make it easy to be lazy!
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it was hard as **** to ride that zx7r but rode right bye alot of newer bikes with slow riders
fyi... alan tan was turning 54's on a stock zx7 with street tires last time out @ TWS (Texas World Speedway)... :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:
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