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Old 04-03-2011, 09:51 PM   #21
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Sorry your so cranky......But i`m NOT going tell YOU what your doing RIGHT or WRONG.......MY comprehension is just fine....But your comprehension needs a little help....I was telling you that your bike has MORE than what you will ever send its way.....Practice and time is what it takes......I and have no ideal who you are. so i never ASSUMED you where a dumbass?..You yourself stated (ability of the bike to lean over?).........
I gave background to what was going on and asked a very direct question which was already answered in full, complete with illustrations. You then proceded to tell me something that anyone that started riding almost a decade ago would be a complete moron not to already know. What was I supposed to think?
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Think nothing of it? it was JUST a statement......
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Think nothing of it? it was JUST a statement......
Fine. Like I said, I was already irritated before you posted. I'm probably just being an .
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Fine. Like I said, I was already irritated before you posted. I'm probably just being an .
I think you took what he said totally wrong. I didn't read it as a slight towards you at all.
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FWIW, I ride a scoot with skinny tires... If my toes are dragging with the of my feet on the pegs then I'm using more lean angle then I want.

You are on the street, not the track. 2 COMPLETELY different animals...

On the track you don't have to worry or even commit mental energy to the
thought that Bubba just went through that same corner in his deisel truck with the
fuel cap off sloshing deisel though the corner....

The more lean angle you commit to a corner the less "what if" room you give yourself.

Just food for though and YMMV....
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I think you took what he said totally wrong. I didn't read it as a slight towards you at all.
My bad then Coolhaven
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Fine. Like I said, I was already irritated before you posted. I'm probably just being an .
when aren't you being an Grimy????
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Not to be a smart ....but unless your a seasoned pro rider you will never see the limits of your bike....Like senator said ^^^^^^^^.....more lean angle then needed..
True and untrue depending on a lot of factors not the least of which is tire choice. If he's using a road-focues tire while """the bike""" might not be at it's limits (whatever that actually means) there might not be any additional tire left. Not to mention that on "race" rearsets with solidly mounted pegs, you're close to leveraging the bike off the ground if you're dragging peg.


Grimace: if you're dragging peg, you're using WAY too much lean angle on the street. This might be because you're taking turns at stupid speeds (which I hope you're not) or because you have terrible body position.
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Dont know if anyone mentioned this, but it your suspension & geometry setup correctly for the bike & tires? Just for example: my bike was raised up quite a bit to make it corner correctly (as most gsxr need). It can make a night and day difference on how much effort it takes to navigate a turn. Which in turn can effect how much input is needed as well as lean angle. In the end you can go faster through a turn with way more contact patch touching the ground.
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Dont know if anyone mentioned this, but it your suspension & geometry setup correctly for the bike & tires? Just for example: my bike was raised up quite a bit to make it corner correctly (as most gsxr need). It can make a night and day difference on how much effort it takes to navigate a turn. Which in turn can effect how much input is needed as well as lean angle. In the end you can go faster through a turn with way more contact patch touching the ground.
Patrick and crew upgraded my suspension at Motorcycles Unlimited, so it should be set up correctly. After looking at the diagram provided by the Senator I am certain I just need more training at the track to ride with the aggressiveness that I have been riding with.
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so which one of those positions would be the right one?
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Great illustration I found your inquiry helpful as well. Thanks
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so which one of those positions would be the right one?
Bottom right picture. If you don't understand why, I would suggest you PM the Senator or Curt and ask them to break it down for you.
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True and untrue depending on a lot of factors not the least of which is tire choice. If he's using a road-focues tire while """the bike""" might not be at it's limits (whatever that actually means) there might not be any additional tire left. Not to mention that on "race" rearsets with solidly mounted pegs, you're close to leveraging the bike off the ground if you're dragging peg.


Grimace: if you're dragging peg, you're using WAY too much lean angle on the street. This might be because you're taking turns at stupid speeds (which I hope you're not) or because you have terrible body position.
it. I'd rather admit to the stupid speed then have people believe I had terrible body position for the record if I do crash and burn I don't need or want any sympathy.
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