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Old 04-03-2011, 07:13 PM   #1
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How can you tell when your pushing it too hard?

I feel stupid asking this since I started riding on the street in 02 or 03, but as usual I was staring at my bike and noticed that I had dragged my left peg a bit. Keep in mind these are Wood Craft rear sets, not stock. I figure it MUST have happened on my one track day, but since I upgraded the suspension I have almost put as much lean on the bike as I did that track day. It is rare that I find myself riding outside my comfort level, but I really find it surprising that you can drag aftermarket rearsets without leaning over too far. So to ask my stupid question to avoid straitening out a corner, how do you know when your at the limit of ability of the bike to lean over? In advance, I realize that there are some variables here, but I'm loking for a general answer.
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Pretty much when I think I'm going too fast, I'm pushing myself

edit: at the track I mean
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well.... dragging peg is not all that unusual. as for limits... your bike will let you know what it's limit is.... hopefully you are aware of it and don't go to far past its limit. Your own "gut" feeling is your own limiting factor.
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Pretty much when I think I'm going too fast, I'm pushing myself

edit: at the track I mean
I push it at times, but as I said, I haven't felt like I was pushing it too hard in a corner in a while *knocking on wood now*

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well.... dragging peg is not all that unusual. as for limits... your bike will let you know what it's limit is.... hopefully you are aware of it and don't go to far past its limit. Your own "gut" feeling is your own limiting factor.
I thought the point of aftermarket rearsets was to kep from dragging hard parts And going by my 'gut' can get my in serious trouble at times.
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well.... dragging peg is not all that unusual.
With stock rearsets maybe, not with aftermarket. Especially woodcraft, they have short pegs and much higher peg height.

OP: I don't know if you're pushing too hard, that's for you to decide. However, if you are dragging peg, it sounds like you need to get your body off the bike more. This way you can carry similar speeds with less lean angle.
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With stock rearsets maybe, not with aftermarket. Especially woodcraft, they have short pegs and much higher peg height.

OP: I don't know if you're pushing too hard, that's for you to decide. However, if you are dragging peg, it sounds like you need to get your body off the bike more. This way you can carry similar speeds with less lean angle.

even if they are set to low position?
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With stock rearsets maybe, not with aftermarket. Especially woodcraft, they have short pegs and much higher peg height.

OP: I don't know if you're pushing too hard, that's for you to decide. However, if you are dragging peg, it sounds like you need to get your body off the bike more. This way you can carry similar speeds with less lean angle.
Thanks. I try to hang off (without dragging knee) and feel quite comfortable with it, but sometimes fall back into my old riding habits that I had before I joined MH and actually started learning how to ride properly. I really think I should do another track day.
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even if they are set to low position?
Mine aren't adjustable.
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even if they are set to low position?
Maybe. Point is that its not normal and indicates too much lean angle, period.

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Maybe. Point is that its not normal and indicates too much lean angle, period.

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Not to be a smart ....but unless your a seasoned pro rider you will never see the limits of your bike....Like senator said ^^^^^^^^.....more lean angle then needed..
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Maybe. Point is that its not normal and indicates too much lean angle, period.

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Thanks for that. Like Grimace said, very informative
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So to ask my stupid question to avoid straitening out a corner, how do you know when your at the limit of the ability of the bike to lean over?
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Not to be a smart ....but unless your a seasoned pro rider you will never see the limits of your bike....Like senator said ^^^^^^^^.....more lean angle then needed..
Forgive me but I'm a bit cranky. I wouldn't have asked the question if I was the super awesome rider you were talking about. I'll work on my riding skill while you work on reading comprehension.

EDIT: It just me off that you would assume that I was a dumbass because you didn't pay attention to what I posted.
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some bikes sit kinda low so even after you raise the pegs they will still drag
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This is just me speaking from my own personal experiences. Also, I have NEVER had an ounce of cornering track time. Thus I never drag my pegs. Take this with a grain of salt... everybody approaches differently...

Right before taking a turn, I establish a point of entry and mentally map a line. Once I start to waver outside from that line, I lay off the throttle. If I waver inside, I throttle up. Falling off the bike has never been an issue with me so I can't help much there other than to tell you to firm up your grip with your knees.

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Lol! Good info Senator. I think I'll try that soon...
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Forgive me but I'm a bit cranky. I wouldn't have asked the question if I was the super awesome rider you were talking about. I'll work on my riding skill while you work on reading comprehension.

EDIT: It just me off that you would assume that I was a dumbass because you didn't pay attention to what I posted.
Sorry your so cranky......But i`m NOT going tell YOU what your doing RIGHT or WRONG.......MY comprehension is just fine....But your comprehension needs a little help....I was telling you that your bike has MORE than what you will ever send its way.....Practice and time is what it takes......I and have no ideal who you are. so i never ASSUMED you where a dumbass?..You yourself stated (ability of the bike to lean over?).........
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