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View Poll Results: The Track Made You A Better Rider: Yes or No
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:16 AM   #1
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The Track Made You A Better Rider: Yes or No

You've done track days, maybe you even race. Did the track make you a better rider on the street?
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:24 AM   #2
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define "better" in regards to on the streets.
I have only done one TD, but afterwards I did have a better sense of bike control and a somewhat more developed sense of what the bike was capable of in regards to hard braking and leaning.
Now, I dont know if this makes me a "better" rider on the streets, though, because Utilizing these newfound skills tends to fall outside of the parameters of the law, you know?

In a more general sense, I would say developing riding skills does translate to a more competent and therefore safer rider...but that statement is all sorts of subjective.
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absolutely, but I'm also willing to bet that my time spent in the dirt has probably helped me more so than trackdays. I hope that one day I'll get the opportunity to get back on the track and see if the seat time in the dirt really paid off.
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absolutely, but I'm also willing to bet that my time spent in the dirt has probably helped me more so than trackdays. I hope that one day I'll get the opportunity to get back on the track and see if the seat time in the dirt really paid off.
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define "better" in regards to on the streets.
You guys write the definition.
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No doubt pushing a bike to the limit (usually my limit, not the bike's) around a track has sharpened all of my basic riding skills. It is like a MSF Advanced course on steroids.

Technical skills aside, where track riding track has been most important to my street riding is between the ears. Knowing what the bike can do around the track helps me make better decisions riding the streets. I tend to ride smarter on the streets because I know that the best place to let my bike loose and have fun is at the track: no cars, open grass if I f-up, and many twists as I can handle.
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You guys write the definition.
well, all around more skilled rider: yes

better in regards to lawfully, carefully and responsibly riding?...i would say, no.
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It depends on what you think "better" is, and what the most important components of that are. To me, the most important thing is being safe. Being fast falls somewhere after that.

I think it has made me better because I stopped using the streets as a place to push myself. When I go out, I really am just cruising. I hardly ever brake anymore, and pretty much stay in the same gear.

I have gotten faster, there is no doubt about that, and I am much more comfortable on my bike.

With that comfort comes confidence. With the confidence usually comes overstepping of boundaries. Gotta watch yourself!

I certainly have never met someone who I felt became a worse rider after they went to the track.

There is always too though...
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I think it has made me better because I stopped using the streets as a place to push myself. When I go out, I really am just cruising. I hardly ever brake anymore, and pretty much stay in the same gear.

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There is always too though...
I'm with Snow. The track has allowed me to throttle back on the streets (because the track is where the real fun is), and try to use even my more spirited weekend rides to focus on smooth riding (which I then try to put back on the track with the aggression the track allows).
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Better rider yes. On the street is questionable. I guess if you are in some twisty roads treating them like a track you can more comfortably get through there faster but that's not necessarily a better thing to be doing on the street. Maybe in an emergency situation where you come into a turn to hot. On the streets of the 4th largest city in the US, definitely not. Urban assault skills can only be gained through experience on the battlefield!
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define "better" in regards to on the streets.
I have only done one TD, but afterwards I did have a better sense of bike control and a somewhat more developed sense of what the bike was capable of in regards to hard braking and leaning.
Now, I dont know if this makes me a "better" rider on the streets, though, because Utilizing these newfound skills tends to fall outside of the parameters of the law, you know?

In a more general sense, I would say developing riding skills does translate to a more competent and therefore safer rider...but that statement is all sorts of subjective.
I like everything he said.... +100000

I can be Rosi on a ducaty, if i had a car that pulled out in front it doesn't matter who you are! skills comes with practice and experience...

let me put it this way... I've rode for 3 yrs, for the first time i took the bike to the track and i was dragging knee... i was still slow, but i was able to get off the bike with only having street riding experience.
Then i got back on the streets and felt the same way i did before....
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they dont teach you how to avoid cars at the track... or hazards
they teach you all about how to handle your bike and how to "follow the race line"
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they dont teach you how to avoid cars at the track... or hazards
they teach you all about how to handle your bike and how to "follow the race line"
Just because that is what they teach you, it isnt necessarily all you learn.

The biggest thing I learned was to keep my cool in a bad situation. I dont know how many times I have had "oh " moments while riding at the track. At first I would freak and get that fear feeling in my chest. After a while, when something unexpected happened, I started to get less startled and just automatically reacting. Now when the bike steps out on me, or I come in real hot into a corner, I dont sweat it til I am actually on the ground.

I credit the things I learned at the track to saving my life at least once on the street for sure by taking less time to think and just reacting.
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