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Old 03-31-2011, 11:33 AM   #41
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I always start the bike first then put on my helmet and gloves to let it warm a bit. You can cold start and go immediately on any electronically fuel injected vehicle and it will run fine. The question is, do you want to put a load on an engine before the oil warms up?
its not all about the oil being up to temp (although that does play a part)...

when the engine is not to partial/full operating temp, bearing tolerances, piston vs bore size, valve lash, etc are all changing... you dont want to beat on a cold motor. period.

on my daily, its got a reasonably built motor (220+hp @ wheel) and i religiously wait till the temp gauge reaches 100* before moving, 125* before 4000rpm, and 140* before redline.

~6000 miles after the build, the bearing tolerances, ring gap, valve lash, etc has changed less than 10%.

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its not all about the oil being up to temp (although that does play a part)...

when the engine is not to partial/full operating temp, bearing tolerances, piston vs bore size, valve lash, etc are all changing... you dont want to beat on a cold motor. period.

on my daily, its got a reasonably built motor (220+hp @ wheel) and i religiously wait till the temp gauge reaches 100* before moving, 125* before 4000rpm, and 140* before redline.

~6000 miles after the build, the bearing tolerances, ring gap, valve lash, etc has changed less than 10%.

just my .02
That Gix is running at 220+?!?! holy . sleeeeeeeeeeeeper!
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Old 03-31-2011, 12:23 PM   #44
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That Gix is running at 220+?!?! holy . sleeeeeeeeeeeeper!
yeah, its pretty much pointless on the street. unfortunately as a daily, it eats the out of the rear tire
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:03 PM   #45
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yeah, its pretty much pointless on the street. unfortunately as a daily, it eats the out of the rear tire
oh i bet...but still, its gotta be a pure smile factory!
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indeed

lulz.
sorry i flaked last weekend, you know cause im dumb and thought the races were that weekend and not this one.

Got the green flag from the old lady so Im gonna head out there on sunday at some point.

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What if me and some of my homies are chilling at the local hangout for a few hours, then when we go to leave, we twist the throttle to the stop and THEN start the bike... IS THAT OK?
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What if me and some of my homies are chilling at the local hangout for a few hours, then when we go to leave, we twist the throttle to the stop and THEN start the bike... IS THAT OK?
oh yeah, sure, sure. WOT start is the coooolest. You aint cool unless you WOT start. fo sho!
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What if me and some of my homies are chilling at the local hangout for a few hours, then when we go to leave, we twist the throttle to the stop and THEN start the bike... IS THAT OK?
That's better than using Amsoil in your motor.


...awaiting sales pitch from one of their dealers.
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That's better than using Amsoil in your motor.


...awaiting sales pitch from one of their dealers.
What you talking? I'm interested in this. You saying it's bad stuff? Why?
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not saying it is bad, it's the second best thing for a bike! bouncing off the rev limiter at startup is #1.

...super sarcasm...

(IMO amsoil is good stuff for motors)
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I thought WOT was the ONLY way to start a motorcycle?
That's what the Amsoil dealer told me to do!!
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You guys REALLY need to let your bikes warm up before riding off on them....and sure don't rev it cold or put it under a hard load when cold...... Sure a fuel injected bike runs fine cold, but the oil is cold(and not fully circulated through the engine/transmission), the parts are cold and the clearances are large.......Not to mention the piston to bore scuffing that can occur from beating on a cold motor...

I always let mine warm up to atleast 140* before riding off, and I never go over half throttle or 4000rpms until its at 160* or so....at least for the first ride of the day.....Once the oil is at full temp and the engine parts are at temp, letting the water temp come down to 100-120*(like an hour cool down), and restarting it and riding it off at a cool water temp will not hurt it because the oil/metal temps are still quite warm....

Oil takes longer to warm up and longer to cool down...

Cold oil + high rpms/load = Engine/tranny wear...


I have seen $10k engines get wasted on a dyno from the operator making pulls with the water/oil temps too cold......."Piston slap and ring flutter is a on a cold engine....so lets spin it to 12k...."
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so.. do you start your car, wait a few min then leave? or do you get in said car, start it, put in reverse and leave.. sometimes i think some of the things on here are a bit OVERDONE. imo
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so.. do you start your car, wait a few min then leave? or do you get in said car, start it, put in reverse and leave.. sometimes i think some of the things on here are a bit OVERDONE. imo
in the truck, i wait until the temp needle starts to move. its still an engine and needs to warm up.
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so.. do you start your car, wait a few min then leave? or do you get in said car, start it, put in reverse and leave.. sometimes i think some of the things on here are a bit OVERDONE. imo
it is nice to learn things about how vehicles are treated by their owners, though. You know, in case they are selling something...

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=177068
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so.. do you start your car, wait a few min then leave? or do you get in said car, start it, put in reverse and leave.. sometimes i think some of the things on here are a bit OVERDONE. imo
Car? What's that?! Never heard of it...

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start bike

put all gear on

by the time i am finished gearing up the bike is usually ready to go....

....unless it is cold... then I will let it warm up for awhile.
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it is nice to learn things about how vehicles are treated by their owners, though. You know, in case they are selling something...

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=177068
Well yea, it's good to know how people treat there bike, but i still think some of the things are overdone a bit, but true, id like to know how someone treats a bike i might purchase, so point made my bike tells me when it's warm, no guages, the RPM light flashes until it's warm, the book says while it's flashing to never go above 5k, and by reading my other threads, it's safe to say i HARDLYever use my powerband so whoohoo .
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