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Old 03-31-2011, 08:34 AM   #21
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Change my avatar?? I don't even have a avatar!!

Nah, I'm a nice guy in general. I just hold grudges is all.
Sorry I meant you're Custom User Title. Couldn't remember what it was called. "Deaf "
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no guage on my bike to tell me the temp... its obvious when the bike is warmed up... rpms drop
Is it fuel-injected? I am really enjoying having this temp guage but AT THE SAME TIME.... watching it rise over 225 makes me paranoid as heck!!
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Is it fuel-injected? I am really enjoying having this temp guage but AT THE SAME TIME.... watching it rise over 225 makes me paranoid as heck!!
yeah, hearing that fan kick on is a moment, but i assure you it's all good.
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Is it fuel-injected? I am really enjoying having this temp guage but AT THE SAME TIME.... watching it rise over 225 makes me paranoid as heck!!
Fan working?
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have the same bike as him. 225 is the temp the fan kicks on at.
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have the same bike as him. 225 is the temp the fan kicks on at.
ahh missed the post about the 1K. Got it.

Mine is just a 600, but temp guage goes from "LOW" to 104 deg, it's really to roll.
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ahh missed the post about the 1K. Got it.

Mine is just a 600, but temp guage goes from "LOW" to 104 deg, it's really to roll.
our temp reading will start when it hits 68, like he said, but on a shingle, im not riding off with it that low. 68degree oil just doesnt seem too awesome to me. But like many have said, i start the bike and let it idle while i gear up and Im usually sitting at 100 or close to it by the time im ready to KSU.
To me, though, the consideration about letting it warm up and keeping the revs low and all that is secondary to getting the tires to temp. I start banging gears as soon as I get on and Im spinning up the rear.
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Oh yeah 68 is way too low I would think.

I'm surprised no one in here has chimed in about synthetic vs. regular oil and which one has to be warmed up more than the other?
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10 seconds, and the time it takes to back out of my garage.. probably another 10 seconds or so.
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have the same bike as him. 225 is the temp the fan kicks on at.
My fan kicks on at 221 but it has risen to 225 in heavy traffic. I pulled over to visually confirm if the fan was running because I can't hear it kick on (Deaf) but it was running just fine. Traffic that day was brutal and it was hot.
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The question is, do you want to put a load on an engine before the oil warms up?
This is the KEY point that I've always tried to make when this discussion comes up on other forums. Letting the engine oil come up to operating temp is very important - doesn't matter if you have a carb or fuel injection. YES...you CAN hit the switch and go because of fuel injection, but it doesn't mean you SHOULD!!

Proper warm up procedures should still be followed...regardless of how you feed fuel to the motor.
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My fan kicks on at 221 but it has risen to 225 in heavy traffic. I pulled over to visually confirm if the fan was running because I can't hear it kick on (Deaf) but it was running just fine. Traffic that day was brutal and it was hot.
oh yeah, didnt consider you not being able to hear it kick on
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With multi-grade oils, "warming up the oil" isn't as important as it was say.....in 1950. The biggest thing, nowadays, to concern yourself with is to make certain there's enough time for the oil pump to start lubricating the valvetrain. On modern bikes, this doesn't take very long.

Now I wouldn't go run the living dog out of it until the coolant comes up to temp as there is an issue of metal expansion to worry about, but simply riding down the street should be fine.
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I start it up in my garage, usually already have my jacket zipped up, so I just put my helmet on, gloves on, back it up, and its normally showing ~110 or so. Plus, I love making sure the neighbors are up early if I have to be, haha. Guess that makes me a too.
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Another question. When you guys talk about low RPMs I am assuming you are talking about low compared to red line. Am I right?

When you start up you want to avoid two issues: low RPM lugging of the engine and high RPMs. Making the motor pull the bike at really low RPM (30mph in 6th I think someone mentioned) gives the motor extremely high forces as the pistons try to torque their way through at poor mechanical advantage (pedal a bicycle in high gear from a stop for stress comparison). High RPMs give high forces due to the component acceleration (think piston changing direction). Both of these conditions are undesirable.

That being said idling is not necessary as long as you take it easy. 5 to 10 seconds is all you need to get the oil around and then gently move out. Letting the bike warm up is a good practice, but I'm pretty sure not necessary. Still with the neanderthals on this site moving out gently may mean spinning up to 8K since it isn't close to the 12K red line. So YMMV.

I hit the start button, wait a tick and roll out. I have 65K and no oil consumption between oil changes. Most of you guys have sport bikes so take my advice with a grain of salt. Just please don't lug those SS engines they aren't made for low RPM torque.
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Another question. When you guys talk about low RPMs I am assuming you are talking about low compared to red line. Am I right?

When you start up you want to avoid two issues: low RPM lugging of the engine and high RPMs. Making the motor pull the bike at really low RPM (30mph in 6th I think someone mentioned) gives the motor extremely high forces as the pistons try to torque their way through at poor mechanical advantage (pedal a bicycle in high gear from a stop for stress comparison). High RPMs give high forces due to the component acceleration (think piston changing direction). Both of these conditions are undesirable.

That being said idling is not necessary as long as you take it easy. 5 to 10 seconds is all you need to get the oil around and then gently move out. Letting the bike warm up is a good practice, but I'm pretty sure not necessary. Still with the neanderthals on this site moving out gently may mean spinning up to 8K since it isn't close to the 12K red line. So YMMV.

I hit the start button, wait a tick and roll out. I have 65K and no oil consumption between oil changes. Most of you guys have sport bikes so take my advice with a grain of salt. Just please don't lug those SS engines they aren't made for low RPM torque.
F*@k it. Since I was the dumbass going 30 in 6th. I'm just going to let it warm up and off the neighbors. I'm not gonna risk my bike.

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