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Old 03-29-2011, 08:18 AM   #1
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Questions: Suspension/Radiator

This weekend I took a rock to the radiator and got a pretty decent pinhole leak going about 2 hours outside of Houston on a Navasota ride. I quickly patched it up with some JB Weld and rode home without incident.

I decided to bring it into a new local shop and have them take a look at it and see what my options are. I was give 2 options: weld it for $200, or replace the radiator for $900. I asked to just slap some Water Weld on there and hope for the best, against their advice.

Will Water Weld work as well as I've heard? It's a fairly small leak, no bigger than a pinhole and was impossible to spot before it started spurting fluid out so the damage isn't that bad I suppose. Should I take the chance and see if this weld works if I'm going to be hit for $50 or just do the $200 weld job?

Also, when I asked about adjusting my suspension I was told that it won't do anything at all. I had to basically talk them into doing it, only to back out after realizing that I'd be better off asking the question here, and maybe taking it to Motorcycles Unlimited since I've heard they do a good job there.

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any shop that says suspension tune wont do anything is NOT a shop that i would give business to. Take that RR to Motorcycles Unlimited and get it done right.

as far as radiator. if your looking to cut cost without compromising you engine, perhaps look at a used radiator off of a parts bike, or maybe ebay. also check WERA boards for used parts.

if you DO plan on buying a new one, see what Motorcycles Unlimited can quote you.


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any shop that says suspension tune wont do anything is NOT a shop that i would give business to. Take that RR to Motorcycles Unlimited and get it done right.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I still had them do an oil change, framesliders and a few other things just to help them out being new and all, but it sucks that the shop right down the street from me gave me that first impression. (They are a sponser too)
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If your suspension just happens to be tuned to your weight and riding style, that shop is correct
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If your suspension just happens to be tuned to your weight and riding style, that shop is correct
Very true! Who am I to judge right?
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For a streetbike you MIGHT get away with just welding the rad. For a trackbike, I wouldn't trust it.
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Very true! Who am I to judge right?
What's your weight? I'm guessing that particular shop was just talking out their . Unless.....did they ask you your weight?
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Thats exactly what I was thinking. I still had them do an oil change, framesliders and a few other things just to help them out being new and all, but it sucks that the shop right down the street from me gave me that first impression. (They are a sponser too)
they are a sponsor?
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I'm 6' 185lbs, unless they were a carnie in a past life I doubt they could guess my weight.

I'll give a review when I get my bike back this week to see if it was just an offday for them or not. Price, quality of work and speed.
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Once it's out the radiator should only be about $50-$75 to repair unless it's fubar. Water Weld can hold up, but imo I'd rather not risk having it fail in the middle of a corner out in bfe.

As far as suspension, I don't recall any suspension we've ever set to be "dead on" from the factory. Sure, there's been some that were close, but never dead in.
Whether you decide to get it set up is your call though.
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I'm 6' 185lbs, unless they were a carnie in a past life I doubt they could guess my weight.

I'll give a review when I get my bike back this week to see if it was just an offday for them or not. Price, quality of work and speed.
That bike has front springs that are ideal for a ~235 lb rider, and a rear springs that's even heavier still. Lulz, sounds like those guys just really don't know their stuff and/or aren't geared towards sportbikes?

In the end, the suspension is going to still be overly stiff at the limits of the stock adjustments. The bike needs to be resprung, and probably revalved to match.
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That bike has front springs that are ideal for a ~235 lb rider, and a rear springs that's even heavier still. Lulz, sounds like those guys just really don't know their stuff and/or aren't geared towards sportbikes?

In the end, the suspension is going to still be overly stiff at the limits of the stock adjustments. The bike needs to be resprung, and probably revalved to match.
You have a lot of experience with CBR600RRs, do ya?
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You have a lot of experience with CBR600RRs, do ya?

Some, yes. More importantly, I have access to racetech's website that'll give me the stock spring rate.
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It's not that bad but he's not that far off.
The bike has 1.0 fork springs and 11.0 rear shock springs.
For STREET use I'd recommend 9.5's and 10.5's respectively.
However the springs aren't so far out that they couldn't be properly set up.
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Water weld should hold. Its not like they were ever 100% to begin with. You are more likely to get another pinhole than have the ww fail IMO
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Appreciate all the input so far gentlemen.
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Just got quoted my framesliders I asked about at the shop for $120 without the install. Seems steep to me, I was expecting $40, plus these would require them to cut into my fairings. They are aluminium but is there any reason for me to not just order these online and have someone install them???




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You want to pay for installation on frame sliders?
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You want to pay for installation on frame sliders?
I have no tools or a garage to work out of. I even paid them to change my oil even though I've done it several times before. Honestly, I was trying to help out my local bike shop, but after this last phone call I'm about done with V-Eagle Rider. I just called him back and told him I want the $40 ones, not the bedazzled $120 sliders and he didn't sound like it was going to happen.

Whatever, worst case I paid $50 to plug my radiator, $70 for an oil change and $15 to put on some aftermarket levers.

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