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Old 03-28-2011, 07:58 PM   #1
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Two bros or PC5 ?

Need some help choosing one of these folks! I'm looking for simplicity and reliability. I don't know much about these things but I'm learning on the fly. So please help me out and give me some pointers. Thanks
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you dont need the pc5 if you dont have an aftermarket exhaust or air filter
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^^^ I think that depends on the bike. Mine was very hesitant in lower RPMs until I got my PCIII. It made a huge difference. Bike runs so much smoother through the RPMs. I couldn't understand why it didn't come from the factory that way.
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The two bros is good and an easy choice if you use a two brothers exhaust as it comes pre-mapped for it.

The PC5 is a good choice if you want more options for customization and tuning. Especially if you are going the autotune route.

Bazzaz is ~95% if you consider the PC5 to be 100% I guess. Its a good unit, just slightly behind PC5.
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1. hack the ecu
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PCV and strait pipe! lol...

but i would get the PCV
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Thanks guys well except versatile for being a dbag. I did search around , just wanted to hear peoples opinions from this forum .
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I have owned a PCV with autotune and a Bazzaz with afm for my R6 (currently) and find the Bazzaz much better all around. Go with Bazzaz
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I just put in a PCV and only have been on three short rides, it has been a big improvement on my bikes performance.
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I have owned a PCV with autotune and a Bazzaz with afm for my R6 (currently) and find the Bazzaz much better all around. Go with Bazzaz
Specifically in what ways is it better?
Just curious as I've worked a lot with both and imo the PC5 is easier to work with and other than TC has pretty much the same features. Not flaming,I'm genuinely interested in your perspective.
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I have never tried a PCV but I have tried a PCIII and had the worst luck. It just abosolutely would not work correctly. Since then, I have a bazzaz with QS and an automapper. It has worked perfectly and even as mechanically challenged as I am, I have been able to map my bike all by myself. LOL I even installed it myself with just a few phone calls for direction. I also like the way Bazzaz really supports racers at the local level. Maybe dynojet does too?

I hear great things about the PCV, dynojet just left a bad taste after my PCIII fiasco.

Why a two bros? Why not an M4 (texas based) or Leo Vince (super closeouts all the time)?

And FWIW, for the street, I'd go for the slip on first. It looks and sounds cooler and people know you have it. Unlike a PCV.

Whatever you do, get with Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited. He will steer you in the right direction. He's been helping me out for several years now.
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I have never tried a PCV but I have tried a PCIII and had the worst luck. It just abosolutely would not work correctly. Since then, I have a bazzaz with QS and an automapper. It has worked perfectly and even as mechanically challenged as I am, I have been able to map my bike all by myself. LOL I even installed it myself with just a few phone calls for direction. I also like the way Bazzaz really supports racers at the local level. Maybe dynojet does too?

I hear great things about the PCV, dynojet just left a bad taste after my PCIII fiasco.

Why a two bros? Why not an M4 (texas based) or Leo Vince (super closeouts all the time)?

And FWIW, for the street, I'd go for the slip on first. It looks and sounds cooler and people know you have it. Unlike a PCV.

Whatever you do, get with Patrick at Motorcycles Unlimited. He will steer you in the right direction. He's been helping me out for several years now.
I think that Two Bros makes a ECU mapping system also. I was confused by that too.

Found the last part of your post strange since Patrick recommended the PCV. I haven't had any problems with the PCIII. Did Motorcycles Unlimited help you with the PCIII install?
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Well let me put it this way guys im not looking to go crazy with the tuning part. I just want a little extra juice and want my bike to run good. Seems like the pcv is more extensive ?
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For those thinking they are going to buy the autotune and tune the bike you are going to be in for a surprise. That is not for a zero map, that is for a tuned bike and making fine tune adjustments later trackside.

You are still going to need a custom tune whichever way you go. Like others said, depending on the bike and mods you might not need any of them.
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