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Old 09-13-2006, 02:11 PM   #1
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I need your lap times from TWS (Texas World Speedway)!!!

Looking for info on what kind of times that guys with 0-2 track days under their belts run at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Especially if you ride a 1000.

I've got a bet riding on it so please don't stretch the #'s
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2:14 maybe... ?
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Maybe but I think they are a little higher than that. Some experts do around 208 and that is cookin. I think more like 2:20.
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Old 09-13-2006, 04:33 PM   #4
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experts are well under 2:00

My question is can a stunter that's probably never been on a track get down under 2:10 on an 06 1000RR.
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All depends on the rider but that would be a pretty quick pace for being that new.
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i doubt it.. i am a pretty quik learner and i did 4 track days and pushed a 2'06.99 infared laptimer. on a 600cc though.. first track day i was like 2'20-2'30 somthing like that. very slow.
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experts are well under 2:00

My question is can a stunter that's probably never been on a track get down under 2:10 on an 06 1000RR.
I disagree I think only half the experts get under 2:00. I am not saying some aren't under but not way under. Getting in the low 50's you have to be pretty dang fast.

I don't think a stunter unless he has alot of twisty road pratice could get under a 2:!0 just not very likely.
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i doubt it.. i am a pretty quik learner and i did 4 track days and pushed a 2'06.99 infared laptimer. on a 600cc though.. first track day i was like 2'20-2'30 somthing like that. very slow.
2'20 isn't slow, maybe 2'30". For the first time on the track with that time 2'30" is fast. Sounds like someone is capable of going pro if he choses to.
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Basically who would be faster....

an experienced racer on a race prepped SV vs a street rider on a 1000
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experts are well under 2:00

My question is can a stunter that's probably never been on a track get down under 2:10 on an 06 1000RR.

Without track time, I don't think so. Stunter rarely see speeds and it takes alot of speed and abilities to make it under 2:10. Props to him or her if achieved.
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Go to the CMRA web site and look at the times the racers do.

Don't even try to check your times on the first track day. This is practice and a time to learn. No athlete goes all out the first day. During some sessions, you will want to go 75 percent to try different lines and different body positions and rather than going all out on the straights, use them to think about how you took the last corner and how you want to take the next one. On the front straight, I often don't go above 100 mph because I'm reviewing the last lap. Work on being smooth, not fast.

Late in the day, I'll try to put it all together and see how fast I can go.
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Basically who would be faster....

an experienced racer on a race prepped SV vs a street rider on a 1000

I have to say experienced racer on a prepped sv.
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experts are well under 2:00

My question is can a stunter that's probably never been on a track get down under 2:10 on an 06 1000RR.

I think I see someone with a 1000cc and thinks he is king of the road. On straight ways, yes. Not on the twisties, it's rider's now, baby.
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Depends on how quick they learn the track.
When I first brought Brandon out there and started working with him, we had him turning 2:03's in his second track day on my race SV, and his background was in dirtbikes and stunting.
Of course he's a quick learner with a lot of natural ability, and he benefited from several of us working with him.

IMO, most street guys initialy have trouble at the track, especially at a higher speed track like TWS (Texas World Speedway).
On the street there are a lot of reference points like curbing and neutral ground to let you know where you are in the corner.
The first time you dive into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) at speed it can be real easy for a novice to get lost in the 60' - 80 ' width of the track with no familiar reference points.
The only benefit a good street rider would have on a 1000RR vs a racr on an SV would be the HP to launch off the corners. If he could keep it on the track for a few laps and his were a lot larger than his brains, he may be able to take an SV.
Take him to a more technical track like Cresson or Oak Hill though, and you'll be scraping him off the pavement.
My 2 cents.
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Maybe but I think they are a little higher than that. Some experts do around 208 and that is cookin.
Are you kidding me?!?! If CMRA experts are at 2:08... I'd have a few class championships under my belts already.

More than half the novice fields are under 2:00. Some dipping into the mid to low 50's. My official(during a race) fastest lap at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on a 2002 GSXR 600 was 1:56

Like someone suggested, go to the CMRA website(www.cmraracing.com) and click on the "results" link... we'll be in for a surprise.
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Are you kidding me?!?! If CMRA experts are at 2:08... I'd have a few class championships under my belts already.

More than half the novice fields are under 2:00. Some dipping into the mid to low 50's. My official(during a race) fastest lap at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on a 2002 GSXR 600 was 1:56

Like someone suggested, go to the CMRA website(www.cmraracing.com) and click on the "results" link... we'll be in for a surprise.
Maybe I need to carify what I said. I mean people riding in expert on a trackday not racers. Does that sound better?
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Depends on how quick they learn the track.
When I first brought Brandon out there and started working with him, we had him turning 2:03's in his second track day on my race SV, and his background was in dirtbikes and stunting.
Of course he's a quick learner with a lot of natural ability, and he benefited from several of us working with him.

IMO, most street guys initialy have trouble at the track, especially at a higher speed track like TWS (Texas World Speedway).
On the street there are a lot of reference points like curbing and neutral ground to let you know where you are in the corner.
The first time you dive into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) at speed it can be real easy for a novice to get lost in the 60' - 80 ' width of the track with no familiar reference points.
The only benefit a good street rider would have on a 1000RR vs a racr on an SV would be the HP to launch off the corners. If he could keep it on the track for a few laps and his were a lot larger than his brains, he may be able to take an SV. Take him to a more technical track like Cresson or Oak Hill though, and you'll be scraping him off the pavement.
My 2 cents.


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yeah 2'10 is average QUICk on the track i mean not supper fast and not slow.. a fun nice speed... when you get 2'05 and lower thats moving.. and 1' somthing thats just crazy.. and if you havent been to the track and dont know refrence points youll never make it past 2'15 i dont care if its liter bike or not if you have never been to a track and know how to handle the track it will not be done..
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