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Old 03-24-2011, 07:06 AM   #41
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I would get with john on that. As with the other poster mixing and matching front and rears, those tires are not made to work with each other. You may get away with it, but probably not factory recommended.
Lots of things aren't factory recommended.
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Looks like you have settled on the BT003RS from John at SCRC, which is how I would go.

If you really want to geek out, check out this street/track comparison article which was useful to me in making my decision to go with the BT003RS for my next change:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/545/82...omparison.aspx

BTW, I'm running Pirelli OEM Diablo Supercorsas on my "street" bike, and they are great tires as well (never thought about them at all on while on the road or track), but pretty much the most expensive option for this class of street/track tires and already showing more wear than the BT0016s after just one novice track day at Harris Hill and a few SMRs.
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I was simply stating what tires I run. Also I am defiantly not the first to do so.
Bad advice used by the masses doesn't magically make good advice.
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Looks like you have settled on the BT003RS from John at SCRC, which is how I would go.

If you really want to geek out, check out this street/track comparison article which was useful to me in making my decision to go with the BT003RS for my next change:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/545/82...omparison.aspx

BTW, I'm running Pirelli OEM Diablo Supercorsas on my "street" bike, and they are great tires as well (never thought about them at all on while on the road or track), but pretty much the most expensive option for this class of street/track tires and already showing more wear than the BT0016s after just one novice track day at Harris Hill and a few SMRs.
My tard is running diablo supercorsas as well. Get grip, life. Which pretty much mirrors what you've seen.
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like i said before i didnt realize that i was dealing with the utmost expert on such issues
You're not. Believe this idiot or believe the idiot who told you that your badfast, torque monster 600 needed massive amounts of traction in the rear, but not the front. Doesn't really matter to me as long as you avoid passing on info.
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Maybe we can get John to comment on mismatched tires for track use. I'm curious to hear his thoughts on the subject.
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so angry lol

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hm... Lots of good opinions in this thread... Really every tire setup I have seen recommended is good for a mid pack rider in advance groups. Even the "weird" tire setup r6rb-ray is running. The reason for the setup is the power race (public available) fronts are total and can dump you at any time with out warning. But the rear tire or PRV front tire are both excellent! So i understand why you are running that setup and why it is recommended by Michelin reps and several places online. But with that being said I don't think you can go wrong with any of the recommendations made unless you are faster then mid pack then I would not recommend anything but true race compound tires.

If anyone is looking for a of a deal on some 003rs though give me a shout. I have a set on my track bike that I was trying out last weekend after only running race compound for some time.... and well anyone who was at GSS last weekend saw or knew about my nasty highside.... 003rs will NOT hold full pace but for mid pack rider or less I would highly recommend them they wear great and provide really good traction and life.

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and well anyone who was at GSS last weekend saw or knew about my nasty highside.... 003rs will NOT hold full pace but for mid pack rider
I would disagree with this comment. I use BT00RS tires in the lightweight group and I am the prototypical mid pack rider (some days a little faster, some days a little slower) for that group and they work great for multiple track days before showing signs of slipping (5-6 full track days). I have never timed my laps, but feel like we are running a fairly good pace.
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No idea. That's why a mentioned I felt we running a "good pace".
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Sorry I wasn't saying they arn't good for a "Good pace". And I do agree they wear very well! I just don't know what lap times this guy is turning, but if he is running around 1min I would highly recommend against them. I took the gamble since I am instructing this season and tires lasting is more important then ever to me. This gamble cost me over 2k in hospital bills and bike repairs.

I won't say you can't put down good lap times on them, I put in several good laptimes on them and had minimal slipping and such and then I got thrown into the air..... What I was saying is if you are running around middle of the pack you shouldn't have any problems with these tires. If you are out there running at the front of the pack stay away from them, when they do let go it can happen with out warning.
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Sorry I wasn't saying they arn't good for a "Good pace". And I do agree they wear very well! I just don't know what lap times this guy is turning, but if he is running around 1min I would highly recommend against them. I took the gamble since I am instructing this season and tires lasting is more important then ever to me. This gamble cost me over 2k in hospital bills and bike repairs.

I won't say you can't put down good lap times on them, I put in several good laptimes on them and had minimal slipping and such and then I got thrown into the air..... What I was saying is if you are running around middle of the pack you shouldn't have any problems with these tires. If you are out there running at the front of the pack stay away from them, when they do let go it can happen with out warning.
For what its worth, 1:12 was my best Saturday on the pilot rd 2's, 1:15 was consistent. I know I need LOTS of work but if fast guys can make it around that track in a minute and some even faster. I'm gonna 12 seconds is a ridiculous gap lol.
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What about mixing Q2 at front with PP on rear? I am slow so probably doesnt matter
Had to replace rear when got a nail and shop didnt have Q2 in stock but recommended the PP as being alright to run in that combo.
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