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Old 03-22-2011, 03:02 PM   #1
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Question Brake pad recommendation/ Issue

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Model: Gsxr 600
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When i'm riding going 40+ then put it in neutral, i feel like the brakes initiating even though i'm not braking. Like the brakes are touching the disk or something. I hear screeching from front and back also. Anyone know what the problem could be?

I also need new brake pads but not sure what brand to go for. Any recommendation?
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:18 PM   #2
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Could be air in the lines. The air in the lines can expand from heat and causea small amount of brake actuation. It CAN progress to complete wheel lock, so it should be looked at.
Brakes should be bled, cleaned and new fluid added. As always I recommend having someone that knows what they are doing work on your brakes. Minor things done incorrectly can have serious results.
As far as brands go that depends somewhat on how you ride. If you are riding on the track and blindingly fast then stepping up to serious race pads may be worth the money, if you just want to improve braking performance then, EBC HH pads are decent. There are others similar.
If you are happy with the brakes you have then stock brakes from the Suzuki shop are just fine too. Trust me they are plenty good for 99% of street riding needs.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:28 PM   #3
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Could be air in the lines. The air in the lines can expand from heat and causea small amount of brake actuation. It CAN progress to complete wheel lock, so it should be looked at.
Brakes should be bled, cleaned and new fluid added. As always I recommend having someone that knows what they are doing work on your brakes. Minor things done incorrectly can have serious results.
As far as brands go that depends somewhat on how you ride. If you are riding on the track and blindingly fast then stepping up to serious race pads may be worth the money, if you just want to improve braking performance then, EBC HH pads are decent. There are others similar.
If you are happy with the brakes you have then stock brakes from the Suzuki shop are just fine too. Trust me they are plenty good for 99% of street riding needs.
thanks a lot. I'm actually at PnP cycle as im speaking now. They are checking it out for me. Where can i buy those brake pads for a good price?
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:49 PM   #4
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Has the bike been down with either brake lever being bent? Or do you have aftermarket levers on the front? If so, it's quite likely that the brake lever is not allowing the piston in the master cylinder to return all the way out when you release the brake lever.

This is a known issue for knock off brake levers as well as brake levers that have been bent. This is a much more likely cause rather than air in the lines. Air in the lines will typically cause a mushy lever, the opposite of your problem.
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Has the bike been down with either brake lever being bent? Or do you have aftermarket levers on the front? If so, it's quite likely that the brake lever is not allowing the piston in the master cylinder to return all the way out when you release the brake lever.

This is a known issue for knock off brake levers as well as brake levers that have been bent. This is a much more likely cause rather than air in the lines. Air in the lines will typically cause a mushy lever, the opposite of your problem.
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Check the pistons on the calipers....if they get a lot of dirt on them and are not cleaned, they can hesitate to move in and out. In addition to what everyone else suggested.

Vesrah RJL are great pads with a good bite, and they last quite a while too. Hit up a sponsor on here for a quote.
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Has the bike been down with either brake lever being bent? Or do you have aftermarket levers on the front? If so, it's quite likely that the brake lever is not allowing the piston in the master cylinder to return all the way out when you release the brake lever.

This is a known issue for knock off brake levers as well as brake levers that have been bent. This is a much more likely cause rather than air in the lines. Air in the lines will typically cause a mushy lever, the opposite of your problem.
Exactly. I had the same problem a while ago and tried everything except swapping calipers. Bled the brakes probably 20 times, changed the master cylinder, lines, etc. . . I threw another lever on it and the problem went away. Having your front brake lock up SUCKS, trust me.
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Has the bike been down with either brake lever being bent? Or do you have aftermarket levers on the front? If so, it's quite likely that the brake lever is not allowing the piston in the master cylinder to return all the way out when you release the brake lever.

This is a known issue for knock off brake levers as well as brake levers that have been bent. This is a much more likely cause rather than air in the lines. Air in the lines will typically cause a mushy lever, the opposite of your problem.
The bike was laid down by previous owner at 5mph or so he says. My friend also dropped it when she came to a stop. Good thing i had frame sliders. I don't have aftermarket levers either(maybe i should go buy some new ones).


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Check the pistons on the calipers....if they get a lot of dirt on them and are not cleaned, they can hesitate to move in and out. In addition to what everyone else suggested.

Vesrah RJL are great pads with a good bite, and they last quite a while too. Hit up a sponsor on here for a quote.
i use this brake cleaner spray to clean it but the problem is still there. I'll hit up a sponsor to c if i could get a good deal on pads.thanks

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Exactly. I had the same problem a while ago and tried everything except swapping calipers. Bled the brakes probably 20 times, changed the master cylinder, lines, etc. . . I threw another lever on it and the problem went away. Having your front brake lock up SUCKS, trust me.
yea, i bled my brakes earlier and it was just fine until half way home. So i'm guessing i should buy a new set of levers
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i use this brake cleaner spray to clean it but the problem is still there. I'll hit up a sponsor to c if i could get a good deal on pads.thanks
You're going to have to do more than just spray it. To really clean the pistons, you should prolly take the calipers off and clean the pistons with a toothbrush or something. If they're really dirty, it can be time consuming, but it makes a big difference.
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What part of town are you in? I have a lever from the same exact bike you own I could steal real quick. . . . but I don't have the time to drive all the way to Conroe or anything either.
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You're going to have to do more than just spray it. To really clean the pistons, you should prolly take the calipers off and clean the pistons with a toothbrush or something. If they're really dirty, it can be time consuming, but it makes a big difference.
mmkay, i'll try that. Going back to pnp cycle tomorrow to have them checkout the issue since they were a bit busy today. I ended up going to a buddies house to bleed the brakes but for sure, i will have them check out the problem for me tomorrow.

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What part of town are you in? I have a lever from the same exact bike you own I could steal real quick. . . . but I don't have the time to drive all the way to Conroe or anything either.
i live in sw houston. Are you offering me a free lever?

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Old 03-22-2011, 11:54 PM   #12
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you should bring it by Motorcycles Unlimited and we will get you fixed up and not just throw stuff at it guessing. you could end up with a completely new brake system before you fix the problem that way...., it could be a number of things, one being the rotors warped, ect. call the shop tomorrow and talk to the boss and im sure we could squeeze you in sometime.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:43 AM   #13
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i just want to say that pnp cycle did a great job at fixing my problem.. THANKS fellas
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