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Old 03-21-2011, 03:22 PM   #21
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Let stupid people do stupid things and Darwin will take care of everything.

I agree 100% with this statement, survival of the fittest.

The only issue is that these people are careening around curves and down the road on a 300-400lb missile. Overshoot one corner at 60 mph, and go head on with the minivan coming in the other direction, and you're creating a bad day not only for yourself, but with the law-abiding family on the other side of that line.

The bottom line is that people need to be more responsible. Be humble, know your limits, be aware, and you'll be less of a danger to yourself and others.

*This goes for people on motorcycles, in cars on cell phones, doing their make-up, reading the newspaper, etc etc. We ALL need to be more aware and diligent in our driving/riding.
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Obviously the same idiots that think a law making it illegal to own a gun is somehow going to stop murders...
Well by that logic its time to legislate or ban forks cause they are the leading cause of making people fat....
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Registration is that little plate on the back of your bike with alpha numeric characters on it and the word "Texas".
Yes, I am aware of that - and what it does is say you've paid the required funds to the state of Texas to allow this vehicle to be operated on the street.

As I'm sure you're doubtless aware, the person operating a vehicle need not be the same entity to which the vehicle is registered.
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I believe in the reinstatement of survival of the fittest. No helmet laws, no seatbelt laws, no requirements for education to purchase a motorcycle. Eventually the idiots will quickly kill themselves off, and we'll all be better for it.
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I believe in the reinstatement of survival of the fittest. No helmet laws, no seatbelt laws, no requirements for education to purchase a motorcycle. Eventually the idiots will quickly kill themselves off, and we'll all be better for it.
I have no problem with any of that personally.
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They can't even figure out how to keep people from driving a car that 1) has no license 2) has no insurance 3) is high or drunk 4) is speeding 5) has a revoked license etc. etc.

so what makes people think that any new law would help motorcyclists?
There you have it. People are going to break the law so let's not have laws. Now, who's gotta kid my uncle can fondle?
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There you have it. People are going to break the law so let's not have laws. Now, who's gotta kid my uncle can fondle?
NO, that is not what was said. What was pointed out was, there are already numerous laws making this behavior illegal. Why in the do you think one more is magically going to stop someone from doing something stupid?

Dude - are you seriously incapable of tracking the conversation?

As far as your uncle fondling a kid - i have one he can (as in physically capable, not "may" which would be granting of permission) fondle, however, I also have the absolute right as her father to stop it if he is stupid enough to violate her rights - and I WILL stop it in a rather permanent fashion.

No law will actually stop your uncle from being a pedophile. It merely places legal penalties upon his actions.
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Yes, I am aware of that - and what it does is say you've paid the required funds to the state of Texas to allow this vehicle to be operated on the street.

As I'm sure you're doubtless aware, the person operating a vehicle need not be the same entity to which the vehicle is registered.
Nope, but the person that owns the bike and allows an unlicensed rider to take it on the street could be held liable.
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NO you have basic laws that a society can live by. But their is not 1 law that can physically stop someone from doing something. All you do is set a consequence. and that person decides to accept that from the actions they CHOOSE to make.

lets say that you can't register a bike without the "M" what is stopping me from riding without registering the bike? people drive EVERY day in cars that they have not registered... some go YEARS without performing that simple task....
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NO, that is not what was said. What was pointed out was, there are already numerous laws making this behavior illegal. Why in the do you think one more is magically going to stop someone from doing something stupid?

Dude - are you seriously incapable of tracking the conversation?

As far as your uncle fondling a kid - i have one he can (as in physically capable, not "may" which would be granting of permission) fondle, however, I also have the absolute right as her father to stop it if he is stupid enough to violate her rights - and I WILL stop it in a rather permanent fashion.

No law will actually stop your uncle from being a pedophile. It merely places legal penalties upon his actions.
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Nope, but the person that owns the bike and allows an unlicensed rider to take it on the street could be held liable.
*sigh* - right over your head isnt it?
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No law will actually stop your uncle from being a pedophile. It merely places legal penalties upon his actions.
So laws don't act as a deterrent to ANYONE?
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I think theres a difference in the types of laws

Reactive VS Proactive.

Reactive laws are such as "You were caught doing this, pay this fine"

Proactive is "you must have this to do this":
There is no Proactive law (using your terminology). Think about it. if you don't "have this to do this" you could still do it, and then when "you were caught doing this, pay this fine."
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No, but it isn't surprising that there is more than one person on here capable of using logic and reason to arrive at a conclusion.

While you may be incapable of thinking the whole thing through, I assure you, most of us do not share your lack of skill.
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So laws don't act as a deterrent to ANYONE?
Not really.

Think about it - do you need a law to tell you to not steal something? Of course not - you know that it is not yours and to leave your grubby paws off of it.

The people who will steal know it is illegal but do not care.

Laws as a deterrent factor are not much different than locks on a screen door.
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I'm trying to, but horse to water and all that...
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So laws don't act as a deterrent to ANYONE?
have they acted as deterrents to all those who have robbed banks over the past year? ( I swear it had to be once a week )

and did they deter or those who killed another driver while driving drunk?


WHY didn't the law STOP them?

Laws are "pull strings" to people morals... they follow what they think is right and everyone has slightly different morals.
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have they acted as deterrents to all those who have robbed banks over the past year? ( I swear it had to be once a week )

and did they deter or those who killed another driver while driving drunk?


WHY didn't the law STOP them?

Laws are "pull strings" to people morals... they follow what they think is right and everyone has slightly different morals.
The law keeps me from shooting one person every day, I can guarantee you that. So I guess I'm the only one in the world they apply to
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