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Old 03-20-2011, 10:47 AM   #1
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Which Power Commander to buy?

I am looking @ theses three:
Power Commander V
http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...uzuki-GSXR1300

Two Brothers Juice Box
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Bazzaz Performance Z-FI
http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...uzuki-GSXR1300

Now I mostly ride to and from work (70miles round trip) but I do like to run her @ both tracks (1/4 mile and a trackday) mainly for chits and giggles.

These all read about the same, but I don't want waste money on something that isn't going to get it done or spend money on something that is more than I need.

Which would you purchase?
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Power commander by far the best IMO.

I've had the bazzaz and it was a pain in the . The programming is more difficult that the PC but is still understandable. I just got a prob with bazazz because it gave me problems on my R6. I've had 3 other bikes with a PC and never had an issue. Now the 2bros juice box I know nothing about....
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Old 03-20-2011, 12:16 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response. I have seen more riders having the Power Commander. I was just hoping to get more info/experiences on the other brands before purchasing.
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Probably can't go wrong with either one go them and all ur gonna get is ppls personal opinions. When I had issues with my Bazazz Patrick over at Motorcycles Unlimited told me to get rid of it and go get a Power Commander......
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:21 AM   #5
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pc5!!! auto tune! text me at 832 755 7076 n i can weld a 02 bung in for u!
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PC or Bazzaz. I have been running the Bazzaz since at the time I purchased you needed 2 PC's to control 8 injectors. I dont get how some think its harder to manipulate the Bazzaz fuel tables. Its just as easy as PC software. I would get the quick shifter either way.
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I got the PCV, and I called about the auto-tune. The problem with the auto-tune for my bike was that I would have to place the kit in one of the pipes and then tune the bike based on that cylinder. I wanted to place the auto-tune where the four header pipes meet-up (collector) to get a better overall tunning, but they said since the voodoos are too short, it wouldn't work properly. As for the quick-shifter, I forgot to look at it again and price it before I made my order. I need to get my launch better before I get the quick-shift. But in order to do that...I need to get my to the track.
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There is a german company that sells the pressure sensor for half the price. I can look into it if you want. The quickshifter will shave min. .2 off your et IMO. You never have to let off the gas to shift. The auto tune is a waste unless you plan on making many changes that require tuning
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Just take the bike and get it custom mapped on the dyno with the PCV....once its mapped, its done. As long as you don't make changes to the engine combo anyway...

I would recommend changing the exhaust system before you spend the $250 to map it though.... Find you a good deal on a used system for $300-400....then map it.... Those Voodoo pipes are junk and its likely losing power bigtime...
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There is a german company that sells the pressure sensor for half the price. I can look into it if you want. The quickshifter will shave min. .2 off your et IMO. You never have to let off the gas to shift. The auto tune is a waste unless you plan on making many changes that require tuning
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Just take the bike and get it custom mapped on the dyno with the PCV....once its mapped, its done. As long as you don't make changes to the engine combo anyway...

I would recommend changing the exhaust system before you spend the $250 to map it though.... Find you a good deal on a used system for $300-400....then map it.... Those Voodoo pipes are junk and its likely losing power bigtime...
I have been reading several other forms about the voodoos. With the exception of looks and being loud, I can't find a blog that says anything good about the voodoos. Just with the initial install with the mapping that DynoJet recommended (D&D exhaust mapping), there has been a nice improvement in the city driving. Throttle is a lot smoother and rpms are way more steady. I am going to start looking into another exhaust, hopefully with a similar profile. I just don't like big cans.

Thanks again for the advice.
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I will keep my eyes open for good deals on used GOOD pipes.... The best bang for the buck pipe out there is the Muzzy. It makes HP very close to all the other big name guys at half the cost..... A NEW muzzy stainless/polished aluminum system is around $500....

I will hit you up if I find you a deal....

You really want to stick with :

Muzzy, Akrapovich, Ti Force, Brocks, HMF (big bird), M4....thes are all of the pipes that make power......other systems just make noise....

I wouldn't even buy a Yosh race duplex system....(I bought one new back in 2000 and switched to an HMF big bird in 03 and picked up 4 hp over the yosh...)
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I will keep my eyes open for good deals on used GOOD pipes.... The best bang for the buck pipe out there is the Muzzy. It makes HP very close to all the other big name guys at half the cost..... A NEW muzzy stainless/polished aluminum system is around $500....

I will hit you up if I find you a deal....

You really want to stick with :

Muzzy, Akrapovich, Ti Force, Brocks, HMF (big bird), M4....thes are all of the pipes that make power......other systems just make noise....

I wouldn't even buy a Yosh race duplex system....(I bought one new back in 2000 and switched to an HMF big bird in 03 and picked up 4 hp over the yosh...)
I am keeping my eyes open for the Brocks "Alien head" (seemed to be cheapest of what I like that offer performance) but the Muzzy and M4 also had that short profile that I am looking for as well. I will continue searching the different sites to see if anything pops-up.
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I dont see how the Alien head is the cheapest. You just looking for a slip on? Keep in mind the Alien head will toast your leg if you drag it at the track. Ask Joe how much he has burned up.
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I dont see how the Alien head is the cheapest. You just looking for a slip on? Keep in mind the Alien head will toast your leg if you drag it at the track. Ask Joe how much he has burned up.
Right now, I am just looking for the slip-on. I can't do a full exaust at this time (maybe next tax return). The average price for the slip-ons alone have been just under $500 - $850. Full exhaust have been well over 1G. Moma aint going to let me spend 1G any time soon.
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Great find.
I am waiting for the site to let me register. If he still has it... I am jumping on it.
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You may want to order a set of exhaust gaskets if you get it
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Once again, good call.
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