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Old 03-21-2011, 02:17 PM   #61
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You can most certainly legislate idiocy - we do it every day.

On the other hand, legislating idiocy out of existence is pretty difficult.
Which was my point
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:17 PM   #62
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The "M" endorsement would not have prevented this kid from crashing.

Taking the MSF class for 2 days on a 250 going 45mph tops will not prepare anybody to hop on a 600 SS and go flying down the road.

Sad that he was injured, but naive to think that more regulation may have prevented anything.
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Better question - does it make you less safe?

Some states have done away with state inspections for the simple reason that the inspection process does nothing but put a burden upon tax payers for no benefit whatsoever.

Yes.

What law is going to actually stop that from happening?

What is your argument for making it illegal to purchase a motorcycle without a valid license?

Where is the State of Texas granted such authority?
What's the big deal about paying for state inspection? If you can't afford it, then you have no business buying a street bike. If you don't want to pay for inspections, then stay off the public roads.

The state should not let you register a street bike without a license. How's that?
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The "M" endorsement would not have prevented this kid from crashing.

Taking the MSF class for 2 days on a 250 going 45mph tops will not prepare anybody to hop on a 600 SS and go flying down the road.

Sad that he was injured, but naive to think that more regulation may have prevented anything.
Not all MSF classes use 250s
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What's the big deal about paying for state inspection? If you can't afford it, then you have no business buying a street bike. If you don't want to pay for inspections, then stay off the public roads.
Personally I don't find it that big a deal, but it is a waste of my time. I am responsible enough to not even think about driving/riding a vehicle in unsafe condition.

Frankly, the whole point of vehicle inspections is silly to me. If you're the kind of person who is going to operate an unsafe vehicle, you're going to do it anyway - and just because it passed inspection one day 6 months ago, doesn't mean it automagically is safe every time you use it.
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Why not? Registration and licensing are two different things. For example, take your typical company with a few medium duty trucks. The company owns the trucks, they are likely registered to the company as well - and the person actually filing the paperwork is likely an admin assistant. Are you suggesting the entire company should have CDL licenses?
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Not all MSF classes use 250s
So what? Doesn't matter if they use 50s or 1500s. The skills taught in the BRC hardly qualify ANYONE to ride on the street out on a supersport.

All they really teach you is how to operate one and leave it up to you to use proper judgement - you know, just like a license for a car...unless you think the typical drivers instruction school magically makes someone the equal of Bob Bondurant...
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Which was my point
I knew that - just jerkin your chain
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Who is suggesting that?
Uhhhhhh....you? Were you not saying you would support a law that required someone to have an M endorsement to purchase a bike?

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Well initially, Pyrogenic did in this post:
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And you supported the idea in this post:
http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=44

Are you having a difficult time keeping up with your own bullshit?
Yeah, that.
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State Inspection has nothign to do with costs. Its time and dealing with some idiot whos going to try to sell me something (Oh your brake pads are getting low...) etc...
Then go to Motorcycles Unlimited and quit

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I spend a fair amount of time in inspection stations for work, and let me tell you...people who don't care if their car is safe, will get that sticker. For 20 bucks more than normal cost, you don't even have to pull in, they'll write it up and give you a sticker, no problem.

now let's get back on topic
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There's another thread on this -can you take the discussion there?
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Personally I don't find it that big a deal, but it is a waste of my time. I am responsible enough to not even think about driving/riding a vehicle in unsafe condition.

Frankly, the whole point of vehicle inspections is silly to me. If you're the kind of person who is going to operate an unsafe vehicle, you're going to do it anyway - and just because it passed inspection one day 6 months ago, doesn't mean it automagically is safe every time you use it.

Why not? Registration and licensing are two different things. For example, take your typical company with a few medium duty trucks. The company owns the trucks, they are likely registered to the company as well - and the person actually filing the paperwork is likely an admin assistant. Are you suggesting the entire company should have CDL licenses?
No, I'm saying any individual that wants to register a street bike must have a license.

Is air pollution silly to you?

There's a simple solution, move to oklahoma or alabama where state inspection is not required
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It's easy to quote me so do it.
We have to go back to original posts now because you're not capable of remembering what's been said? Incredible. Are you trying to fill in for badzx14 or something?

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And you supported the idea in this post:
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Are you having a difficult time keeping up with your own bullshit?
There it is, for the 3rd time, princess.
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I spend a fair amount of time in inspection stations for work, and let me tell you...people who don't care if their car is safe, will get that sticker. For 20 bucks more than normal cost, you don't even have to pull in, they'll write it up and give you a sticker, no problem.

now let's get back on topic
Well I see that a lot of people shoot a lot of people. The laws aren't working so let's just do away with them.
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I use to live in MN...we had inspection and the emissions tests. Lasted a few years and they found out it wasnt worth the cost because all the cars passed emissions and most people didnt drive unsafe cars.
That's just one reason my MN sucks
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