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Old 03-11-2011, 12:42 AM   #1
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When do new, but unused tires go bad?

I crashed last trackday March 6, due to my front wheel washing out on the "sweeper" at MSRH. The cause of the wash out was simply that the front tire had been used for several trackdays and was down to the ware bars on the right side. = My fault completely...

However, the bake is back in order and to salvage my next trackday on Monday, I have an unused set of tires at the house, mounted and ready to go. They been on rims and sitting in my game room (air conditioned) for a little over a year now. Should they be good to use since they are in fact brand new and never used before? Or do tires, like these, go bad if not used for a period of time?

I'm not trying to be a tight wad a skimp on getting new tires, I simply do not have time to put new tires on, but I really want to do this next trackday before I head back out to work.

BT003's are the tires in question here...

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Old 03-11-2011, 01:06 AM   #3
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Thanks...I forwarded this to John

the number that most resembled a special manufacture date or such for the front tire was

VAA2408
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Old 03-11-2011, 01:18 AM   #4
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Thanks...I forwarded this to John

the number that most resembled a special manufacture date or such for the front tire was

VAA2408
I'm gonna feel like an if I get this wrong, but I believe the tire was made in June, 08.
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i think that is right grimace looks like 2nd week of june 08
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Make sure tires continue to be regularly inspected after 5 years of service
to determine if they can continue in service. Regardless of the tires condition
or tread depth, it is recommended that tires more than 10 years old be taken out of service
and replaced with new tires.

This is not a warranty that any tire will obtain 10 years of service. Some
tires will require replacement before 10 years due to conditions such as
punctures, impact damage, improper inflation, overloading, tread wear or
other conditions involving use or misuse of the tire. If a tire is worn out or
otherwise unserviceable from damage or conditions of use, it should be
replaced regardless of when it was produced or placed in service.

Tire Manufacture Date
The tire manufacture date is determined by examining the DOT tire identification
number, also known as the DOT serial number or code, which can be
found on at least one sidewall near the wheel. It may be necessary to look on
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Tires Produced Since 2000: The last four (4) digits of the serial code
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That tire will be fine. But while you have John on the phone you might ask his thoughts about moving to the Pirelli equivalent (supercorsa).
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I crashed last trackday March 6, due to my front wheel washing out on the "sweeper" at MSRH. The cause of the wash out was simply that the front tire had been used for several trackdays and was down to the ware bars on the right side. = My fault completely...

However, the bake is back in order and to salvage my next trackday on Monday, I have an unused set of tires at the house, mounted and ready to go. They been on rims and sitting in my game room (air conditioned) for a little over a year now. Should they be good to use since they are in fact brand new and never used before? Or do tires, like these, go bad if not used for a period of time?

I'm not trying to be a tight wad a skimp on getting new tires, I simply do not have time to put new tires on, but I really want to do this next trackday before I head back out to work.

BT003's are the tires in question here...

Thanks,

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Good storage technique, but that isn't the end-all be-all unfortunately.

I was able to run last year's 003Pro's last weekend at Cresson and they were just fine; stored similarly to your tires, but they were 2010 manufactured tires, and were my take-offs not tires I bought as take-offs.

I judge my take-offs with the 'ol fingernail test, how they feel after being on warmers for 1/2 hour, and ultimately then how they feel on the first couple of laps with progressive increase in speed. Sometimes I just look at 'em and say, "eff it" and get a new set. I don't like crashing, especially if it means crashing because I didn't want to spend cabbage on new tires.

:edit: Just saw that they're "new" but possibly old tires. I think you'll be just fine, but I'd still be careful and evaluate the tires slowly at first. Still consult with John though.
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I love how Tom always give a really detailed reply, giving great advice... and I do some quick, short-and-to-the-point reply! Thanks Tom!!!
Yeah, could have just left that alone and not replied- I didn't bother to read the other replies first



By the way, is that what they call a "backhanded compliment"?

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Yeah, I could have just left that alone and not replied- I didn't bother to read the other replies first



By the way, is that what they call a "backhanded compliment"?

Something prompted me to re-read that post and make a correction. Strange how a one letter word can change the perception of that statement...

Of course, I'm probably the only one who noticed it.

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And HOLY , someone call the Paramedics, the media, everybody... Brandt "I ride the Dunlop's ' Train" CDill35 just recommended Pirellis!!!!

Although, I do agree.. step up your game and get some Pirellis!!
Well..being that he is already customer of John's, I'd recommend he ride on the best John sells...Pirellis.
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HAHA you guys crack me up

Yes, I would say the tires should be fine. If you would like, I'd be happy to look at them in person at a trackday, that I am at.
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