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Old 03-07-2011, 04:41 PM   #21
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so the leader has to basically babysit all the riders?
teach them and put them in line?
No. Let MH riders crash when they're in over their heads.
F*ck em. Leave them on the side of the road too because no one wants to pull over and babysit anyone either...
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i wish i had a doll hair every time we had one of these threads. Even if you go 5mph the whole time, some bone head will find a way to go down. You cant baby sit all riders all the time. Best bet is to keep groups small and know who you are riding with.

and the cycle continues.....
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That is exactly how i felt 3 weeks ago when we had close to 30 bikes where i knew only half of them, that day i decided to stay way in the back because i saw a few ego riders moving up the line at the stop light and was seriously afraid that any one of those kids could hit me from behind in case i needed to make an emergency maneuver. I was so glad that day went without any incidents!
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^^that's the way we should do it right?
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That is exactly how i felt 3 weeks ago when we had close to 30 bikes where i knew only half of them, that day i decided to stay way in the back because i saw a few ego riders moving up the line at the stop light and was seriously afraid that any one of those kids could hit me from behind in case i needed to make an emergency maneuver. I was so glad that day went without any incidents!
I always see the Sunday rides you post up and the last had someone wreck that not everyone knew. That's what I'm talking about. Of course it's not your fault, but it seems you have a pretty tight crew that you ride with every Sunday so why not just ride with them if you all know each other and feel comfortable riding together? It just seems like a huge risk just for the off chance of meeting someone new that you like to ride with.
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^^that's the way we should do it right?
If you know any other way please show me by doing it and not by just saying it online cause there is a "big" difference between saying something that sounds good on the net vs actually doing it in real life
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If you know any other way please show me by doing it and not by just saying it online cause there is a "big" difference between saying something that sounds good on the net vs actually doing it in real life
Cool, then take your little rules off your SMR threads. What's the point in rules if no one enforces anything?

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Cool, then take your little rules off your SMR threads. What's the point in rules if no one enforces anything?

pot. kettle. black?
Should we also take away all of the Speed Limit Signs across the country while we are at it? Nobody really seems to obey any of them including yourself
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Should we also take away all of the Speed Limit Signs across the country while we are at it? Nobody really seems to obey any of them including yourself
Using your passive approach, absolutely! It's too much of a hassle to enforce it....hence the reason there's no law enforcement agencies around...
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There are many of us that put together larger, better organized and, yes, faster rides than the current SMRs. Ultimately we switched to the track and learned how to ride well and fast. None of us lead crazy fast rides any longer, particularly on a recurring basis. Why? We learned that you can't really ride fast on the street due to the unpredictable nature of the surface, traffic, and debris.... Not to mention the high dollar tickets.

And, we've all lost friends. People have died. Recently. If you continue to organize your rides and brag about the speeds, it will happen to you.
 
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There are many of us that put together larger, better organized and, yes, faster rides than the current SMRs. Ultimately we switched to the track and learned how to ride well and fast. None of us lead crazy fast rides any longer, particularly on a recurring basis. Why? We learned that you can't really ride fast on the street due to the unpredictable nature of the surface, traffic, and debris.... Not to mention the high dollar tickets.

And, we've all lost friends. People have died. Recently. If you continue to organize your rides and brag about the speeds, it will happen to you.
I really have nothing against riding at the track, i am actually planning to do a few trackdays this year myself, but realistically i really enjoy riding on the street and yes we do ride almost every sunday but our pace is far from"crazy fast", the only time that i really push it out there is when Carlos Lascale comes out, but with the racing season just started it is very rare that he even comes out anymore, so for the most part "our" pace has been toned down a lot.
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Unless the ride leader knows and has ridden with everyone in the group, there should always be a rider's meeting so that everyone is on the same page.
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Using your passive approach, absolutely! It's too much of a hassle to enforce it....hence the reason there's no law enforcement agencies around...
As far as our rules.... here they are:

A. keep at least 2 bike lengths distance between bikes at all times.
Which we do!
B. pay attention to the road and the bikes in front of you.
We also do!
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This is a mental note to "yourself" to stay in your comfort zone at all times!
G. keep a constant speed, do not accelerate to pass on the straights and then park it on the turns, its all about being smooth!
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Unless the ride leader knows and has ridden with everyone in the group, there should always be a rider's meeting so that everyone is on the same page.
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There's no way to keep riders from running off the road, but hopefully if everyone knows and follows the rules, one rider won't cause another to crash
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Leadership Rule #1: Upper leadership transcends lower followers. If people in the "slower" groups are messing up, something is not right about what the leaders are doing.

IMO, know who you are riding with. These organized, weekly rides on the same path would seem to me about some people getting there egos inflated about how bad they are doing the same road over and over again. And then the slower riders will want to follow and inevitably crash or worse. That's why personally I like riding with girls or older guys...they don't have ego complexes.
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As far as our rules.... here they are:

A. keep at least 2 bike lengths distance between bikes at all times.
Which we do! Except when Deadfred went down.
B. pay attention to the road and the bikes in front of you.
We also do! Except when Bart went down
C. ride in staggered formation on straights.
We Do! Except when we use our gopros and draft other riders, see floyd600's youtube channel
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This is a mental note to "yourself" to stay in your comfort zone at all times!
G. keep a constant speed, do not accelerate to pass on the straights and then park it on the turns, its all about being smooth!
We do! Refer to A and B together
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Leadership Rule #1: Upper leadership transcends lower followers. If people in the "slower" groups are messing up, something is not right about what the leaders are doing.

IMO, know who you are riding with. These organized, weekly rides on the same path would seem to me about some people getting there egos inflated about how bad they are doing the same road over and over again. And then the slower riders will want to follow and inevitably crash or worse. That's why personally I like riding with girls or older guys...they don't have ego complexes.
Don't lie on the net man.... you like riding with girls and old people cause they make you feel faster
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