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Old 04-15-2011, 04:40 PM   #41
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The second video...that chick just doesn't know how to ride...
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:26 PM   #42
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Holy , that first guy needs to get a scooter.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:27 PM   #43
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The second video...chick
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:36 PM   #45
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... and the rest of his upper body. Absolutely sick lean.
Man, that guy was hanging way too much and going way too slow. No sick lean angle there. He almost fell off the bike cause there was no inertia holding him on.

Like if you sit on a roller coaster with the car sideways on a turn and its not moving, you will simply fall off like that guy almost did.
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Man, that guy was hanging way too much and going way too slow. No sick lean angle there. He almost fell off the bike cause there was no inertia holding him on.

Like if you sit on a roller coaster with the car sideways on a turn and its not moving, you will simply fall off like that guy almost did.
They all eventually got sick lean. Eyebrows down and all. I was being facetious.
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They all eventually got sick lean. Eyebrows down and all. I was being facetious.
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yea i see it now. i guess just another case of unfamiliar rider on an unfamiliar road?
I think it's more a case of driver habits versus rider habits

Rider habit is to countersteer to make the turn, driver habit is to turn the wheel in the direction you want to go. In a panic or "habit" situation, your mind falls back on what it knows.

So if you are not constantly on the bike and reminding yourself to counter, you instinctively turn the wrong way in a reactive situation.

I see it all the time when a rider has to react to avoid something. 9 times out of 10 they turn straight into what they wanted to miss... driver reaction.
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Looks to me to be a combination of speed (deceleration) applying too much steering input towards the inner part of the turn radius & over braking at the same time. Result: - the bike is going to follow the front wheel at that point until the angle of turn exceeds the weight following it. No I'm not an expert, but centrifugal force works both ways in a turn, learned that flying airplanes. My 10C take it or leave it.
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Power related, he seems hesitant coming into the corner, he's feathering his power & again deceleration pulls him toward a surface (the yellow line) that affects his tires traction at the speed he's going. I bet, if he'd wound up the throttle a sec. or so before this happened he wouldn't have been on the line he ended up on, consequently he wouldn't have have dropped it. Jus' sayin..
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There's a strange noise before any reaction... sounds like gravel or perhaps he grounded the bikes fairing on the asphalt - result reduction in speed enough to trigger centrifugal force (pulling the bike to the outside of the turn).. F*ck I've drunk way toooo many beers tonight! Like I know from ! I'm just grateful they all walked away relatively unscathed. Bikes can be fixed... Peace & safe riding to EVERYONE!!
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Looks to me to be a combination of speed (deceleration) applying too much steering input towards the inner part of the turn radius & over braking at the same time. Result: - the bike is going to follow the front wheel at that point until the angle of turn exceeds the weight following it. No I'm not an expert, but centrifugal force works both ways in a turn, learned that flying airplanes. My 10C take it or leave it.
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They all went over the speed limit that's why they crashed
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Alright half of these are over-braking and turning into the turn when running wide.
As for the other half it seems like they some how have rear sets that are an inch off the ground and once they get any sort of angle they catch and then panic ensues and wreck occurs. I'm just really confused how anything is scraping with the lack of angle as well as speed...
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:57 AM   #57
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Yup seen them all, the guy who records these videos sits right at that corner recording all these crashes on mulholland drive in California, this road is imfamous just like Hero Hill.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:29 AM   #58
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The first camera shows what looks like the guy got scared when he was scraping knee and peg and then turned into the turn and goes down.
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rearset

that is only thing i dont like about aftermarket rearset, it does not bend back....

wait....the bike has stock rearset, so what was making that scrapping sound??? right before he crashed????
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