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Old 02-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #1
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Kansas approves bill making it legal for bikes to run red lights.

Of all states, Kansas passes a law with some common sense. The most backward state in the country passed a common sense law.

Wonder how long til people start abusing it to the point where they repeal it.

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Ever been itching to run a red light that just won't change? Kansas lawmakers think motorcycle riders should be able to do just that.

The Kansas House on Tuesday approved a bill that would allow bikers to run a red light if the signal "fails" to turn green after a "reasonable period of time." The proposal leaves the discretion in the hands of the motorcyclist, but is aimed at ensuring riders don't get trapped in perpetuity at intersections because of signals that either malfunction or don't detect the motorcycles.

Motorcycle riders testified this month that their bikes were often not big or heavy enough to trigger the sensors that cause red lights to switch. For fear that riders would have to choose between being stuck on the Kansas tundra or running a light and risking a ticket, they urged the legislature to approve the so-called "Dead Red" bill giving them a free pass. The riders testifying in support of the bill belonged to a group known as ABATE, or A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments.

"Cars and trucks have no problem with it, but motorcycles have always been an issue," Crawford County Sheriff's Deputy Bob Peters said, according to Fox 14. "You may be on a section or roadway where you may wait for five minutes and there may not be other traffic along to trigger the sensor."

Though Peters supported the bill, it was opposed by Kansas police organizations that want their officers, not motorcycle riders, to have the discretion. One Republican lawmaker unsuccessfully tried to strip the red-light provision, saying, "I see no skeletal remains of motorcyclists sitting at red lights that never change," according to The Wichita Eagle.

The bill passed the House Tuesday as part of a broader road safety package. The other component in the package would prohibit local jurisdictions from imposing extra fines on drivers for seat-belt violations. The bill kept the statewide fine at $5 -- that would eventually rise to $10 or $60 depending on the severity of the violation.

The language in the motorcycle bill also covered bicycle riders.

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I dont agree. There are to many dumb on bikes. I dont want to have to deal with killing a rider who "thought" the intersection was clear.
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Good for them.

I'm sure there will be dumb that will abuse it, there ALWAYS is...

Personaly I treat most stop lights and a stop sign if there is no traffic in the
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I dont agree. There are to many dumb on bikes. I dont want to have to deal with killing a rider who "thought" the intersection was clear.
I believe that is natural selection.

We don't have enough of it IMHO....

Back in the day, stupid got ate by the bear...

If you can't tell that your actions are going to have NO EFFECT on any traffic
then you kinda have getting ran over in your future, light or not...

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Kansas also recently starting drug testing the citizens on government assistance. . .I like what they have going on up there!!!!
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Hey Hey Hey now i grew up in Kansas........... its not that bad of a place. Though I dont miss the winters and wind gusts...... as for the new law.......... If you have ever been on a bike in the middle of NO WHERE kansas those lights WILL NOT change. So instead of them updating the systems to allow detection of motorcycles I can see why theyd want to pass this law.
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Hey Hey Hey now i grew up in Kansas........... its not that bad of a place. Though I dont miss the winters and wind gusts...... as for the new law.......... If you have ever been on a bike in the middle of NO WHERE kansas those lights WILL NOT change. So instead of them updating the systems to allow detection of motorcycles I can see why theyd want to pass this law.
Except for the bible thumpers, like their senator, that guy Brownback. He lives in a house paid for by some church and he washes his aides feet like Jesus would to his disciples, one wacky religious kook.
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I lived near Wichita, the town did not have any traffic lights only a blinking red at the intersection so not sure how useful that would be.
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Kansas also recently starting drug testing the citizens on government assistance. . .I like what they have going on up there!!!!
now THAT is a winner.
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Translation: Kansas also recently started drug testing the lazy worthless who expect to receive handouts from tax paying citizens because "da Man keeps us po' folk down".
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i'm okay with this. they are just making legal what bikers do at every left turn light in america when no cops are looking. ask any law abiding biker with more than 10k road miles on their bike how many times they've sat through 3+ cycles of a traffic light waiting for the left turn light to green. i'll bet 100% of them will say they said it and turned.
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i'm okay with this. they are just making legal what bikers do at every left turn light in america when no cops are looking. ask any law abiding biker with more than 10k road miles on their bike how many times they've sat through 3+ cycles of a traffic light waiting for the left turn light to green. i'll bet 100% of them will say they said it and turned.
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And in all actuality, Kansas is smart. It's way cheaper to let bikes turn at a light that won't register them then sending out a road crew to keep the signal in adjustment.
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Kansas also recently starting drug testing the citizens on government assistance. . .I like what they have going on up there!!!!
But what if they fail the test? I'll bet there is a "welfare for people who can past a drug test to qualify for welfare" form # LA-Z.
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