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Old 02-20-2011, 08:25 PM   #41
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Not good advice IMHO, it wasn't a hit and run.
yeah i know, but it was plan B in case the guy didn't want to settle this like a man..... if he has no intentions of paying for Fred's damages then i say Fred doesn't need to play by the rules with this type of guys.
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yeah i know, but it was plan B in case the guy didn't want to settle this like a man.... if he has no intentions of paying for Fred's damages then i say Fred doesn't need to play by the rules with this type of guys.
Not to threadjack, but that advice speaks to your ethics. And it's not in a positive manner. Two wrongs don't make a right (but three lefts do). If someone doesn't "man up", being unethical isn't exactly a manly response in my book.

End threadjack and best wishes to Fred, glad you weren't hurt. The bike can be fixed.
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Is your back tire just going flat or did you tweak the rim or is you swingarm tweaked? Something looks off back there.
I think its weird lighting in the picture that causes it to look distorted
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yeah i know, but it was plan B in case the guy didn't want to settle this like a man..... if he has no intentions of paying for Fred's damages then i say Fred doesn't need to play by the rules with this type of guys.

Did or did not the other rider provide correct/accurate insurance information
Prior to leaving? If he failed to do so, I believe that meets the criteria for hit-run within tx.

My very brief search appears to infer that hit-run/leaving the scene of an accident are the same, but then I am not an attorney and this is not and should not be construed as legal advice.
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the rider of the CBR 954 has ridden in SMR's in past. today however he was not at the meet spot and ended up joining the pack midway through the ride. whether you want to call that being "part of the ride" or not, is irrelevant...

what IS relevant is that he is notorious for breaking formation in a pack. i have PERSONALLY seem him charge the person in front of him in staggered formations, squid through to the front of the pack in the middle of the formation as well as drag race people in the same lane to gain spots.

I'm an not the only SMR regular who has seen this rider ride in this manner. today was the first time i ever met Fred, so i have no bias toward him. My bias comes from seeing first hand several occasions where the CBR954 guy rides this way.

Other SMR riders have commented as well about him. and we never really ever wanted him there.
forgot to add....he also gave false information(phone) after the incident and didn't display insurance...that says a lot as well..
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Not to threadjack, but that advice speaks to your ethics. And it's not in a positive manner. Two wrongs don't make a right (but three lefts do). If someone doesn't "man up", being unethical isn't exactly a manly response in my book.

End threadjack and best wishes to Fred, glad you weren't hurt. The bike can be fixed.
this has nothing to do with ethics..... Fred is giving him a chance to do things the right way, but if this guy has no intentions to do it then it's whatever it takes to take care of business
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Hey Fred, did you get this guy's real number from Manuel yet?

When he left the gas station he told me that he was going to park it at his friends house a block away and come back with a pick up truck later today, 15 minutes later we saw him riding his bike on I-10 with his buddy..... i hate shady people like that.

If you have his real number, try giving him a call and see if he wants to settle out of court, if not report it as a hit and run and report his license plate, i think the guy riding behind you saw the whole thing, maybe could be a key witness in this type of incidents.
It wasn't a hit and run though. Youreresponsible for leaving ample room in front of you to avoid other vehicles. Yeah, op may have wrecked because he couldn't avoid the craved rider in front of him but ultimately it's still his fault for following too closely. Op is assed out.
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It wasn't a hit and run though. Youreresponsible for leaving ample room in front of you to avoid other vehicles. Yeah, op may have wrecked because he couldn't avoid the craved rider in front of him but ultimately it's still his fault for following too closely. Op is assed out.
you've clearly missed the point...the other rider cut him off, them immediately hit the brakes...there's not a whole lot he could of done to create an adequate distance between him and the rider.
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It wasn't a hit and run though. Youreresponsible for leaving ample room in front of you to avoid other vehicles. Yeah, op may have wrecked because he couldn't avoid the craved rider in front of him but ultimately it's still his fault for following too closely. Op is assed out.
following to closely??? are you retarded? did you even read the original post??? He was behind me, the cut me off, then fell on his ...
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this has nothing to do with ethics..... Fred is giving him a chance to do things the right way, but if this guy has no intentions to do it then it's whatever it takes to take care of business
I don't understand this. What business are we talking about? The guy in front went down and Fred didn't have enough time to get out and avoid laying his bike down. There was no contact.
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Did or did not the other rider provide correct/accurate insurance information
Prior to leaving? If he failed to do so, I believe that meets the criteria for hit-run within tx.

My very brief search appears to infer that hit-run/leaving the scene of an accident are the same, but then I am not an attorney and this is not and should not be construed as legal advice.
he never provided proof of insurance and made up a fake phone number, so he had no intentions to do the right thing from the start

from his own statements about the accident, he made it clear that both bikes collided causing the accident, so according to his own words there was a "hit" and then he "run".
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It wasn't a hit and run though. Youreresponsible for leaving ample room in front of you to avoid other vehicles. Yeah, op may have wrecked because he couldn't avoid the craved rider in front of him but ultimately it's still his fault for following too closely. Op is assed out.
If he has witnesses stating the other rider passed him in his lane, or around him, cut him off then crashed immediately in front of him, its not necessarily that cut and dry. What hurts his...case is they all left the scene w/o calling the police...and thus having a report on the scene.
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no worries bro. there will always be those cry babies who believe that minorities can do absolutely no wrong, and if they do and you point it out, you will be called a racist. just brush it off. nobody takes those guys seriously, and neither should you.

glad youre ok, and hope you get something from that lying piece of , though i wouldnt count on it.
That he presumes the guy didn't have insurance based solely on the fact that he was Latino would literally make him a racist. Using race as a basis for making a personalization about someone is the absolute definition of racism.

That said, there was a dept of public safety report released several years ago that showed that Latinos were almost 5 times more likely to be cited for driving without insurance in texas than all other ethnic groups combined.
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Your calling me racist because your being narrow minded. I wasnt saying all latinos are uninsured, I was simply making a statement that is relevant to my situation.
Look you said "I don't want to sound prejudice, but he was a latino male, and could be very probable that he didn't have insurance."
I'm just saying there is no need for references to be made about peoples race, motohouston does not represent that. I know you were probably raised thinking that its ok to say things like that about different races, but just keep the thoughts to yourself this isn't the place.
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he never provided proof of insurance and made up a fake phone number, so he had no intentions to do the right thing from the start

from his own statements about the accident, he made it clear that both bikes collided causing the accident, so according to his own words there was a "hit" and then he "run".
I thought from what Fred said was that the bikes did not collide? If there was a collision then you are correct from what I believe that is a hit and run. If that is the case then Fred should be calling the cops instead of chatting it up with us here.
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I don't understand this. What business are we talking about? The guy in front went down and Fred didn't have enough time to get out and avoid laying his bike down. There was no contact. Isn't that simply a case of following too closely?
you were not at the scene, Fred did not follow too close the guy tried to pass him on a turn, cut him off right before the turn and realized he couldnt make the turn too late so he panic and locked the rear brake.....
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When did the public school system cease to teach people to read...
A guy went down in front of you. You crashed without him touching you. What am i missing? it's not a hit and run.
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