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Old 02-14-2011, 08:18 PM   #21
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im just not familiar with bikes thats why i have all these questions.also ive never had anything new in my life as in a car or bike...
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:27 PM   #22
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oh btw i was looking at the owners manual and it states the following.

Exclusions from this warranty shall include failures caused by :

1.Racing
2.Abnormal strain or neglect or abuse
3.Lack of proper maint
4.Accident or collision damage
5.Modification of original parts

It has more things but pretty much it dosent say anywhere that i need to bring it to a yamaha dealership for any maintenance.
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:49 PM   #23
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I worked at a dealership one summer and did all the 1st time oil changes. I changed the oil, checked all fluids, checked the brakes, checked for leaks, chain tension, tires, hand controls, etc. It was basically a thorough inspection. There is a basic checklist for each bike/atv/watercraft depending on what it is. At least there was where I worked.

Most bikes come at least 95% assembled. From the factory, the bolts are all usually nice and tight.
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pretty much pay 200 if you dont know what to look at on a bike
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:20 PM   #26
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man i want to pick up some oil tomorrow after school.im driving from hobby towards katy,any store in between that might carry amsoil
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:24 PM   #27
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I would not recommend a synthetic oil till you have at least 6000-8000 miles on the engine. With today's nikasil cylinders and hard chrome rings it can take that long for the rings to seat properly. If you run synthetic oil with a friction modifier you can inhibit the process and the engine may never reach peak VE.
I'd recommend running a good petroleum based motorcycle specific oil like Motul 3000.
Fwiw we can do the 600 mile service on your R6 for $115.00.
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:17 AM   #29
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Cool thanks man. Hopefully I get a chance and stop at stubbs after class
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:38 PM   #30
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$35.00 Yamaha filter,yamalube,washer .$0.00 labor. Even the guys at Yamaha told me what to check lol
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Yeah they saw me wearin my uniform and could understand why I didn't want to pay for them to do it .they just told me the main things to check and to bring it back if I have wierd noises lol. I will use yamalube for the first 3 or 4 oil changes then switch to amsoil
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Amen. It seems like Kawasaki are worse on the metal shavings. Honda the lease.

On new bikes, I change it when I get it home. Then I change it at 150 miles. Then at 300 miles. Then I take it in and let them do their 600 mile .
The oil the bike comes with from new is designed to assist "running in", it's not the same as used from 1st service on. Changing at 150 is counter productive and unnecessary.

btw the first service SHOULD be way more than just an oil/filter change.
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What more are you supposed to change or switch out at 600 miles
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What more are you supposed to change or switch out at 600 miles

Nothing changed or switched, but they're supposed to check torque on a bunch of stuff.
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What more are you supposed to change or switch out at 600 miles
Nothing. The bike is just inspected to make sure nothing is loose like nuts, bolts, screws and
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AMSOIL out performed Motul, Castrol and a bunch of others at https://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf?zo=1181889 .

Do the service interval as listed in your owners manual if you feel you can. If not, have your favorite mechanic do it. As mentioned before, the only way your warranty would be voided would be if you did something to cause the parts to fail. And the manufacturer would have to prove it.
I bet if you went to Motul and to Castrol you would get that their oils out perform AMSOIL' oil.

A long time ago I did some dyno testing with oils and found that many of them performed very close on a bearing load test, Royal Purple did the best, but Castrol R4 consistantly generated the best HP increase and had the most positive effect on the transmission.

Look for oils that use the best branch chain polymer binding agents ( i.e. ester) these agents allow the polymers that get chewed up during operation to seek eachother out when cooled and "rebind" with themselves.

A lot of technicians have different views on which oils to use and how soon you should go to them, I have my theories and I know others have theirs, who is right and who is wrong? Its hard to say, no two technicians do the same studies and perform the same controlled test to formulate their own opinions, in fact most just go by what they hear from the salesman that was pushing their product on them last. The other day Tucker Rocky broght their Motorex rep. by and I hate to say but this poor dude could not answer any one of the questions I had for him and ended up getting a lesson that day.

As far as not running a synthetic for at the first oil change, I do it everytime and infact most auto manufaturers use it from the get go now. All engines are tested at the factory before they are sent out, and that test involes running that engine high enough in the rev range to allow the crosshatch in the cylinders to file the rings down properly thus leading to maximum cylinder/ring sealing.

Now for the reason I wanted to post in the first place.

You should have the dealership perform the first service, the oil is not the only thing we are looking for when we perform this service! And yes there are certain aspects of this service that protect you from a loss of warranty (Trust me OEMs are looking for any reason to deny coverage nowadays) coverage. Was the clutch adjusted properly? (Suzuki' GSXR line is the main one for this, because there are 3 differnet places to adjust the clutch on
these units) where the brakes wearing down properly and even, is there uneven wear on the tires indicating a steering issue? I could go on for a while but I wont.
The oil needs to be looked at because there are more parts in a MC engine that in a car, the tranny the clutch all have metal and fibers that are getting material worn down or off of them, the dealer has (Hopefully) invested a lot of training in the techs so that they are familliar with what they are looking for.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh yeah, I prefer Castrol

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If he is a mechanic then I'm pretty sure he can do his oil change and a simple inspection .its not rocket science
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