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Old 02-12-2011, 08:25 PM   #1
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Exclamation WARNING: Galveston Causeway Popo

WARNING: Galveston Causeway Popo
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So today I changed the oil on my bike and because of the magnificent weather, I decided to take an all day ride...in leathers lol Starting from Texas City to Downtown to Hillcroft/Westpark to eat with my homie. Afterwards, I took a ride through downtown, Allen Parkway Kemah and then headed home. Before I got home, I decided, what the , let's goto Galveston for a quick pass through

So at this point, it's starting to get chilly (5pm) and windy as I travel further south and the sun starts setting. I am going the normal speed limit until I get to that sweet left turn before entering the causeway, per picture below...

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...after that turn, I tuck in fully and haul up the causeway because it's very windy and I don't want to get knocked around. I exit 61st street and turn right heading towards the beach. I see a Galveston Police SUV parked inbetween both sides of 61st and slow down accordingly and then pass a few lights. I then see a cop haul on the other side of 61st street and make a uturn near where I am and a few seconds later, I hear sirens. I take a quick peak in my mirrors and see lights lit up from both cop cars, so I pull over into a Healthy Chinese Buffet restaurant parking lot.

Bike off, kickstand down, hands on tank.

All 3 cops approach me and ask for my license/insurance, which I provide. At this point, I think I am getting pulled over for doing 5x in a 45mph on 61st before I saw the SUV Cop. Well, one of the cops asks me how fast I think I was going on the Causeway...that's when I knew I was in trouble. I was honest - I told him I was speeding through the corner and was speeding up the causeway because it was cold and windy. All of the cops continued to press me on exactly what speed I think I was traveling - I explained that I wasn't looking at the speedo and in the turn I wouldn't know since my speedo is inaccurate anyway (I had to explain that the rear tire's circumfrence shrinks dramatically when angled). One of the cops proceeds to tell me I was doing over 100mph up the causeway. Now, I didn't want to call his bluff but there's no way I could go that fast with my 286lb self on a 650r UP a windy causeway. He said that there sargeant saw me speeding and they organized a trap for me on 61st and also on Broadway (that's where the 2nd cop came from) so they could pull me over. Now I am starting to think to myself, "where was the sargeant hiding?".

So to make a long story short, the cop car leaves with 2 cops and the 1 remaining SUV cop runs a check on my license/insurance and sees I am riding completely legal with a clean record. He writes a warning, which I was very appreciative for. I shook the cop's hand and let him know I really didn't know how fast I was going since I was tucked in all the way up the causeway.

Looking back, there are 3 possibilities of where the sargeant cop was hiding:

a) behind the right shoulder barrier of 45S at the turn I took fast
b) on 45Nbound side where there was construction
c) no cop was present - they may have video surveilance near Tikki Island?

The point is, as the cop told me, "even when you think we aren't watching you, we are watching you". Be careful if you plan on going to Galveston and taking the causeway or turns before/afterwards fast.

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Old 02-12-2011, 08:33 PM   #2
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Thanks for the heads up. I think you baffled them with some physics and realized they didn't have any answers. Glad they only gave you a warning.
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Glad you got out of there without your wallet being raped.
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Good story, but I'm confused. Were you doing 100 mph?
My bike tops out at 120mph (speedo reading) with me on it, so corrected, thats probably like 110-115mph and that's on a flat road. There's no way I could have gone triple digits up a windy causeway. I was just going a lil faster than traffic to get off the causeway asap. Once I reached the crest of the causeway, I rode just a hair faster than traffic until I got pulled over.

I think nobody actually radared or paced me but heard me and figured I'm just another SS 600/1000cc lol. My bike is a 650 2cyl that makes like 70hp lol

Here I am on my bike, for reference, @ TWS (Texas World Speedway). @ 2:27 I am WOT on the speedway with a 07 ZX6r chasing me (camera bike). My bike is slow as fk

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i was going back to galvez to turn myself in for warrants and cranked the busa up to well over 100 on the causeway. saw lights, pulled over. told the cop i had warrants and was going to check into the grey bar motel. he said "you're not turning yourself in during mardi gras" he fkn let me go
true story. galvez pd, mainly county, can be cool as .

and excellant graphics there ormond
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Yeah the cop that gave me the warning was cool - he said he doesn't write tickets for things he didn't witness (supposedly a 'sargeant' saw me doing this speed on the causeway).

This now marks the 3rd time I have been pulled over on a bike, 2nd time in full leathers. All 3 times I have been given a warning Cops are definently cool when they see you are responsible, err less speeding lol
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you were gettin fairly horizontal in that vid man
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you were gettin fairly horizontal in that vid man
Too horizontal. That was my 1st trackday and since I have learned not to lean the bike so far down and instead get my off the seat. There's a lot more stability and control with bodyweight acting as a '3rd wheel'.
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The next time they say they clocked you, just ask to see the radar.
then prepare to be tazed lol
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Why would the speedo be inaccurate with the rear tire angled?

speedometer readings come from the front wheel....
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Do they have to let you?
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Gimme a friggin break........ who the do they think they are.
Um... law ENFORCEMENT?

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All they did by passing that bit of "advice" was show their true color.

Galveston PD.
So what they "said" is more important that what they did (let him go)?
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Gimme a friggin break........ who the do they think they are. If you're breaking a law then fine but don't try to pass around that "I'm superior and watching you" attitude.

All they did by passing that bit of "advice" was show their true color.

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I guess they should have arrested Ormand...or at least ticketed him....

Id rather be let go with a warning as opposed to a tix or arrest....
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Galveston cops have been cool with me before. I got busted smoking the wacky tobacky at a graveyard. They let it slide after they saw that we were ultimately responsible folk just being kids. Told us to bury the smoke and shoo'ed us away.

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Gimme a friggin break........ who the do they think they are. If you're breaking a law then fine but don't try to pass around that "I'm superior and watching you" attitude.

All they did by passing that bit of "advice" was show their true color.

Galveston PD.
bluff, dude. an attempt to get you to chill.
galvez pd aint NOTHING like hpd
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Houston's one of the biggest cities in the US and Galveston is our ticket to the beach. I'm sure that the things the G-town Po-Po see would surprise you. There's tourists, parties, rallies, bikers... and hence crime. Lots of alcohol, drugs I'm sure, then follows fights and shootings and theft ad nauseum.

Anyway...

Having dealt with (and sometimes been hassled by) cops for long enough I'm getting a good feel for how they work. Step one is for them to tell someone they've already been caught. Some people will confess, although most frequently in the form of trying to explain/justify their actions. Others will get defensive and beligerent, which creates an excuse within itself to make an arrest/ticket.

In this specific case they couldn't do much without a confession, considering they obviously didn't really clock you. Almost guarantee you they fed you a pure BS story about this fictional sargeant and their glorious, ingenious plan to call for backup and trap you.

You did great by keeping your cool, honesty was a major bonus. Chances are it was near shift-change time and trio of good 'ol boys decided to make a group effort at getting some jollies. If they'd really wanted to make a wallet-extraction, they could have tried to nail you for something along the lines of inattentive driving (you're responsible for knowing your speed), or possibly for defective equipment - but you said that your lean angle changes speedo readings, not that you have a defective speedo, which kinda kills that.

Most likely they just want someone to spead the word to keep "idiot" sportbike riders out of Galveston. Maybe there's fed money at stake if they can reduce the number of speed-related accidents this quarter, who knows.

Congrats on your minor victory, and thanks for the heads up.
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I dunno Ormand. On my SV I was able to gp fast enough that I got a nasty headshake bc I was too far into the triple digits so don't doubt ur bike too much homie
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Why would the speedo be inaccurate with the rear tire angled?

speedometer readings come from the front wheel....

Not the case
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