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Old 02-07-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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Question New tires, any suggestions?

I'm relatively new to riding, only been riding about 6 mths. I'm about to buy a new set of tires for my 2003 ninja 636. I mostly do high speed riding, so I need something that will last in the middle, but recently i have been pushing my cornering... I must have got to atleast 50% on a sharp right dip not too long ago, and that adrenaline was crazier than 160mph... So I do want some sticky tires that will last also last for my high speed nights.

I am looking into Pilot Power 2cts, Sportmax Q2, and M3 supersport... and wanted some good advice on what is best for me.

Thanks alot guys, see ya out there.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:06 PM   #2
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2ct's out of your list. BT016's are good too.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:15 PM   #3
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I'm relatively new to riding, only been riding about 6 mths. I'm about to buy a new set of tires for my 2003 ninja 636. I mostly do high speed riding, so I need something that will last in the middle, but recently i have been pushing my cornering... I must have got to atleast 50% on a sharp right dip not too long ago, and that adrenaline was crazier than 160mph... So I do want some sticky tires that will last also last for my high speed nights.

I am looking into Pilot Power 2cts, Sportmax Q2, and M3 supersport... and wanted some good advice on what is best for me.

Thanks alot guys, see ya out there.
None of the tires listed above will have good wear.
The Power 2CT is a track day tire and wears rapidly. It's center trad is 18% softer than a standard Pilot Power. It's also being phased out and replaced by the Pilot Pure.

The M3 is an old technology tire that has been superseded by the M5. Neither had a reputation for good life.

The Q2 is a good tire, but wears fair. Better than the 2 other options, but not at the level you say you are wanting.

Based upon how you say you're riding I would highly recommend a Pilot Power front and Pilot Road 3 on the rear.
Another decent combo to consider would be a BT016 front with BT023 rear, but the Michelins are a better combo imo.

Be careful about some of the advice you may get from people who have only used 1 or 2 brands. Not saying that they're not worth taking into account, but consider the spectrum when giving them gravity in your decision process.

I make my recommendations based on installing thousands of tires and seeing how they wear and grip. i routinely also install and test new tires on my personal bikes to get a feel for them.
I have no brand affiliation, so I have no vested interest in selling you a specific brand of tire. If it works well, I'll recommend it.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:18 PM   #4
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BT016's are good but BT023's will last longer in the center for you and also have decent cornering abilities.



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Old 02-07-2011, 04:29 PM   #5
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I like my 2ct's

but you better get used to spending money on tires...its all part of it...

better tires=more sticky=more money=lasts less miles
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I got the bto23s about 5k miles ago, and still have a long way to go, they're plenty sticky for me, and great in the rain. Not that I would advice testing this, but they did well on the ice too (as well as any tire can be expected to)
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:39 PM   #7
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I like my 2ct's

but you better get used to spending money on tires...its all part of it...

better tires=more sticky=more money=lasts less miles

Depends upon the end user. If one were to realistically evaluate how they ride a Sport Tour tire on the rear will provide plenty of traction at any speed just shy of the track for 99% of the street riders out there.

For that matter I've known some plenty fast guys running respectably at a track day on Sport Tour tires.

Will a 2CT or one of the other track day oriented tire give you more available traction? Undoubtedly, but on the street it's not only unnecessary it will also wear out much faster.

Most riders would get more performance and life out of their tires simply by monitoring and adjusting their tire pressure to their needs.
My 2 cents, ymmv.
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I look for confidence over wear properties. I have tried all kinds of tires on several bikes. I still like Pilot Powers. I never questioned their grip. They wear like a , but I never cared. I'm on q2's now, but have not tested them in corners. I can spin the rear all over the street. So far I have to say I'm not impressed with their grip or feel.
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I agree with you on the Q2's, it's why I only gave them a "fair" rating.
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But when can we get the new Pirelli 240/17 for public comsumption??
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Thanks Patrick. A few others also told me michelin was the one of the bests out side of pirelli. One question, why the pilot power for the front and road 3 for the rear? Just curious.

I'm glad to know the person I have been bringing my bike to has also given me the best recommendation. I will be ordering these tonight and bring my bike in asap.


Again, thanks to everyone that helped me out.
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The Pilot front is a bit stickier and will be a bit more confidence inspiring when you push it. Also front tires are less prone to wear so they last longer.
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That pilot road will last forever..
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