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Old 02-01-2011, 11:21 PM   #1
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:23 PM   #2
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, that sounds like a lot of fees..
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:30 PM   #3
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every dealer is different, when i bought the bmw they wanted to charge me 600 for dealer fees and i asked what was associated with that fee and they basically told me that they would detailed the bike and check all fluids was at the correct level, i wasnt very happy with that and the salesman told me not to worry about it as long as i was ready to make the deal happen that same day which i did and they still ended up detailing the bike without charging me for it!
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:38 PM   #4
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I asked the the salesman the same question, he said the fees where associated with assembling the bike, filling fluids, cleaning it, like you said. I offered them $4400 OTD and they rejected it, they wouldn't budge form $5200. MSRP is $5299 and this bike is 2 years old. I think they're being unreasonable, but I don't know what they pay for it.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:45 PM   #5
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Extremely excessive in my opinion. Always negotiate on the out the door price, OTD for short. I heard wild west or someone out in Katy had them for like $3900 OTD price. Remember, OTD is sales price + fees + taxes + title work. Taxes are 6.25% and are gonna be the same everywhere. Basic title fees are charged by the state, most dealers tack on a small processing fee for doing the title work for you. If you compare anything other than OTD price, you aren't gonna be comparing apples to apples, regardless of how the figures are calculated.

Get the KLX SM, it's a very nice ride and a really good deal right now. But it doesn't hurt to shop around. GOE Kawasaki has a few of them they brought out to the racetrack. The demo bike, with about 50 miles, had a pipe, carb kit, handgaurds, etc and I recall they wanted about $5200 for it, but I can't say for sure.

From an ebay ad selling them for $3880 buy it now adds the following:

There will be a $299 charge that includes all documentation, freight, assembly, and destination charges that will be added to the final price of this vehicle. We also offer great prices on 3 yr Extended Warranties (example: 1300cc Motorcycle normally $1199, now only $588) and for parts and accessories.

With that bike you'd have taxes and registration (6.25% times $3880) is maybe $240, plus title fees, maybe another $75 so your OTD would be $4200 give or take, but you'd have to pay $500 or so to get it shipped here, and so you'd be out of pocket $4700.
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:47 PM   #6
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Talk to Carlos at mancuso, he gave me great deal on the 1098 and is usually more reasonable and willing to budge a bit if he knows you are a serious buyer!
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Buy this one for 3395, ship it here, pay taxes, maybe $4200 total.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawas...#ht_1902wt_713
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:55 PM   #8
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It looks like Wild West Honda still has a few 09's. Tommorow I will stop by, see if they are still doing $3900 OTD.
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Help me out I'm bordering on confused here; "dealer fees" apply only to new bikes? I guess I could understand if the factory ships a bike without fluids and the dealer has to add those from their own supply. Also for building the bike; although it should be pre-assembled as much as possible, with just a few items removed in order to ship as compact as possible (ie remove wheels, maybe bars).

Mine had a base price of 3800 negotiated, add the TT&L I paid just under 4200.

And for what it's worth I got mine at Wild West Honda of Katy - everything about their store was great, except for the general manager who is the biggest I've had the displeasure of meeting in probably the last decade. I won't ever shop there again.
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I thought dealer fees were an inescapable part of the "dealership experience", whether you're buying new or used. I'd go somewhere else though, those fees are excessive.
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Thats bs, I would expect to pay those kinda fees on a high end sport bike that just came out, like 1098,s and BMW,s but not on last years models dirt bikes, fuc that, NO WAY would I do that, U are doing them a favor by taking there old stock off the floor, thats why dealers put big sales on leftover stock, they gotta eat that, plus it dont take to prep a bike, thats like going to a resturant and having to pay prep fees on your steak, baked potato and salad
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Old 02-02-2011, 11:14 AM   #14
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Look online for one. You can find deals for bikes that include free shipping. That is outrageous. If you can find one at a dealer for $3,700 locally then chances are there is one out there that you can get put on your doorstep for that exact amount.
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Here you go.

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Oh and if you work a deal on it, I'll be in the area next week (monday) and could bring it back for you, for six pack.
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Nevermind that. You can't buy a new one from a dealership out of town. With bikes you have to physically be in the dealership to sign the paperwork. Just get a used one if that is the only new one in town.
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Here you go.

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/2188769436.html

You can thank me later.
You deserve a medal. That is a steal as long as you were actually paying cash. Even if the plastics have some scratches it doesn't matter, the plastics on those are dirt cheap. Maybe $20 for rad shrouds etc. That's why they are so much fun. You can drop it and make it look new for $50. Riding is a lot more fun when you take out the stress of high repair bills for minor incidents.
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Let's hope OP returns to thread, so I can claim my reward.
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Help me out I'm bordering on confused here; "dealer fees" apply only to new bikes? I guess I could understand if the factory ships a bike without fluids and the dealer has to add those from their own supply. Also for building the bike; although it should be pre-assembled as much as possible, with just a few items removed in order to ship as compact as possible (ie remove wheels, maybe bars).

Mine had a base price of 3800 negotiated, add the TT&L I paid just under 4200.

And for what it's worth I got mine at Wild West Honda of Katy - everything about their store was great, except for the general manager who is the biggest I've had the displeasure of meeting in probably the last decade. I won't ever shop there again.
DO NOT have any service work done at Wild West..........I have never in my life witnessed such blind leading the blind at anything. I really can't believe this place is still open. And if it is the same GM that was there four years ago......he is definately lost in the whilrwind, utterly useless.
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