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Old 01-31-2011, 03:24 PM   #1
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Question Tires at the track.

I will be doing my first track day soon. My tires are a bit worn out and it's almost time for new ones. I might be getting them this week. What I was thinking is. Can I take these tires that are almost worn to the track and get them changed there?

Will they let me use this tires as far as passing inspection?

Both front and rear tires.

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" A bit worn" should be fine. "Stands up on its own" or "I can see cords" won't be. Depending on the particular trackday, there might be a tire vendor on site. In particular SCRC normally offers free trackside installation if you bring him the wheels off of the bike.
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which trackday you going to buddy?
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Like po-po said, there is usually a tire vendor at the trackday, but you'd want to double check first. If not, most if not all of the TD orgs will not let you on the track with shagged tires. I imagine in 4-8 months you haven't changed too many tires, so make sure you have the tools with you that you'll need.

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If you don't have what you need, I'm sure someone will be able to help you out in the pits.

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You would prolly have to know someone with the tire machine and a garage...Ive never tracked at MSR Houston but I doubt they have a tire machine available for use unless you're paying someone. Depending on how wore out they are is going to depend on if they pass you in tech inpection. I use to do Tech Inspections...do you have pics? I can tell you if they will pass or not
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Can you post some pics of the tread?
I have passed tech with the wear bars right at the tread level before.

And there usually is a tire changer at MSRH. What trackday org. is running that day?
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which trackday you going to buddy?
I'm going with RideSmart on the 14th.

The tires are still good and they have a ok amount of life left...The front one is prob the worst out of the two.

I will try to get pics up when i get home. the only reason I'm getting new tires is cuz I want to take advantage of the Whoopies sale right now.

thinking of getting the bt016's and didn't want to take those new ones to the track if i could use the already worn ones, ya know?
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Take the new ones to the track for sure.

Seen too many guys last year go down, only because their old tires got mushy and they washed out...

Save your takeoffs for when the new tires get too worn and you need something to hold you over a couple of weeks on the street.
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Take the new ones to the track for sure.

Seen too many guys last year go down, only because their old tires got mushy and they washed out...

Save your takeoffs for when the new tires get too worn and you need something to hold you over a couple of weeks on the street.
I completely agree! Good advice is hard to come by and this is def good advice!
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Take the new ones to the track for sure.

Seen too many guys last year go down, only because their old tires got mushy and they washed out...

Save your takeoffs for when the new tires get too worn and you need something to hold you over a couple of weeks on the street.
+1 instead of the BT016s you should get the BT003 instead!
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+1 instead of the BT016s you should get the BT003 instead!
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+1 instead of the BT016s you should get the BT003 instead!
Good point, especially if you do more than one day. It's something to consider.
Sacrifice some miles for a little more sticky action...

That sounded cleaner in my head....
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thinking of getting the bt016's and didn't want to take those new ones to the track if i could use the already worn ones, ya know?
I have to disagree with this point; would you rather have sticky rubber or used hard rubber? You're probably not going to go fast enough to burn through your tires during your 1st track adventure. Also, you will be wearing a part of the tire your never have before.....the SIDES You will get plenty of life out of the center of the tire even after winning the end of the day track day trophy.

Another important factor I haven't seen mentioned yet is the ready factor. Get to the track ready to go. You have enough things to worry aboutduring your first few outings; mounting tires shouldn't be one of them. Have your bike ready to ride before getting to the track.

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Do you have pics of your tires?
I tried taking pictures of it but since my phone doesn't have flash and my camera is broken. The pics didn't look right.

I will try tomorrow.
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I tried taking pictures of it but since my phone doesn't have flash and my camera is broken. The pics didn't look right.

I will try tomorrow.
Why even risk it? If you have saved up the cash, buy them fresh for riding/TD season. You might not use all your current tires have to offer, but then again in the afternoon session once you get comfortable you MIGHT. The last thing you'll want to worry about during a TD is your lack of confidence in your tires...

Good point about getting them before. Especially in level one, they give you hardly ANY time for bike work. Just enough to top off fuel, check your pressure and get dressed since you'll be in class all day.
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Good point, especially if you do more than one day. It's something to consider.
Sacrifice some miles for a little more sticky action...
From what I hear, BT003's are best at the track.
But after that you'll wear right through those on the street.

BT021's are good for the type of street riding you do.
BT016's will fit the bill for both track and street IMO.

But Frank and Bill are right, if you've got the cash it's a good investment.
(Although I'm wondering if you'd really need that much sticky on first day Level 1?)
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From what I hear, BT003's are best at the track.
But after that you'll wear right through those on the street.

BT021's are good for the type of street riding you do.
BT016's will fit the bill for both track and street IMO.

But Frank and Bill are right, if you've got the cash it's a good investment.
(Although I'm wondering if you'd really need that much sticky on first day Level 1?)
I agree, first track day, even touring tires can do fine, remember that you may be fast on the street but on the track you start at zero and build speed slowly, it should take a few track days to really go fast (within your limits, and your bike's too)

BT016 are great for that
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I agree, first track day, even touring tires can do fine, remember that you may be fast on the street but on the track you start at zero and build speed slowly, it should take a few track days to really go fast (within your limits, and your bike's too)

BT016 are great for that
I agree. I've seen some pretty respectable INTERMEDIATE PACE times be run on a pilot road front.
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