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Old 01-27-2011, 06:14 PM   #41
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so then you would agree that when it comes to safety, the ol "i buy the most expensive thing i can get my hands on because its the mostest safetst product" mantra doesnt apply? my point is that just because a product is half the price, doesnt mean it doesnt offer comparable protection. thats all.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:21 PM   #42
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so then you would agree that when it comes to safety, the ol "i buy the most expensive thing i can get my hands on because its the mostest safetst product" mantra doesnt apply? my point is that just because a product is half the price, doesnt mean it doesnt offer comparable protection. thats all.
I think i just mentioned "comparable protection" on my previous post lol

The manufacturing business and product placement game is very simple and most of the consumer don't put too much thought into it when they go into a store and buys something.

China is making a killing because they know how to play the game and compete with the major brands out there! When it comes to selling a product, price alone is a bigger factor now more than a few years ago due to the recession. China has no intention to make a better product because they know that if they can make a comparable product that is cheaper and even with less features they will gain a % of the market share. Their strategy to gain market share is "affordability" to match the current market conditions.

On the other hand, for manufacturers like Dainese and Alpinestars that invest a lot of money in R&D each year, the game has changed since China became a big player in this industry, now for any product that they make, their first criteria is to focus on quality and innovation and their second criteria is to offer additional features that the chinese brands are not interested in offering to support a higher price tag!
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I remember this from last year. That jacket was brand new, or on the first couple of uses. Good thing it was at a slower pace.

His Levi's held up better....
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I had a set a leathers from them that kept me safe for 2 years (street and track). I took a real fall with them other than on the minis; and they held up great for that. At the end they looked like creap and were starting to fall apart; but not due to the a faulty product but rather a faulty user.

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If FT is what you can afford, and it is comfortable, then go for it.

Are they inexpensive, one-time-use items? Sure - they're also inexpensive enough that having to replace them after a spill wont be so bad.

Personally, in the same price point I'd go with Tourmaster or Cortech, or do some serious searching on eBay. Not because there's anything wrong with FT, but because they use that damned euro zipper. Its on the wrong side for men in the US.

You may also want to look here: Teiz Motorsports. VERY good stuff for the money.
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Of course safety/protection is important, but if someone is looking for a good reliable/quality jacket, without breaking the bank, what choices are there? A* and Dianese are ideal, but a bit pricey.
How about Joe Rocket, Icon, First Gear, Scorpion, Shift, S&S. I know some companies make products, that's why I ask. Need to stay away from those. I hope this thread helps others as well.

Thanks again for your input and opinions.
One more to add to the list, how does Cortech hold up? I just want to find a good/reliable jacket.
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One more to add to the list, how does Cortech hold up? I just want to find a good/reliable jacket.
Cortech/Tourmaster are pretty good. I mean, they're not Rukka but for the money they're tough to beat.

IIRC, they both make gear that the manufacturers rebrand. So, that Yamaha/Kawasaki/Honda/Suzuki/Triumph/Harley/etc gear that you see at the dealerships is actually made by Cortech/Tourmaster (same company, slightly different styling)
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I had a set of Frank Thomas gloves went I went down on 45, and tasted pavement.

I believe they were the XTI set... you can see pictures of the gloves from that thread "I just got ran off the road!" (Under some shock as I was posting "live" when it happened, so I'm a little..hard to follow...but the pics speak for themselves ) speed was aproximate 60 to 70 mph.


I also believe they were deerskin???? Absolutely the most borken in glove s I had ever worn. Very supple, did its job, and I had no damage to my precious digits.

Will recommend them for the value they offered me.
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Did you even READ my post?....Really? It's situational...again. I tried on one that felt shitty, maybe they all aren't. It's my opinion. For every one of your "buddies" that tore apart theirs, there are an equal number of stories of ones holding together in crashes. Both FT and Fieldsheer have mixed crashed reviews....or was the word "dependant" not clear enough?
I did read your post. You based the effective protection of a suit based off of how it FELT when you tried it on................essentially the worst possible metric I could ever think of. As far as I'm concerned, racer's personal experience with crashing a particular suit is a MUCH MUCH better metric than how they "feel" walking around a store.
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I do not agree but respect your point of view! Not all helmets are created equal! Cheap helmets might offer comparable protection but do not offer the weight saving, wind noise, cheek pad quality as the high en helmets! so it really depends on what you are looking for in any product!
Exactly. I think it's pretty common knowledge that an $800 helmet won't really protect you any better than a $250 one. I'll pay extra for the weight(and where it's placed on the helmet) better directed airflow, and padding comfort. If I was one to wreck a lot and go through helmets fairly often then I'd go with something cheaper, but I've never hit my head when I've crashed. I'll stick to Arai.
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I recently bought a Frank Thomas XTI-something jacket. I bought it for the rain, but man, this thing is incredibly warm. It has that CE armor in it, so it isn't top-notch protection, but at least I won't turn into a icicle and fall off the bike! I'll let y'all know how it crash tests if that happens.
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picked up a FT XTiII jacket and gloves from CG a few weeks ago for $120, then went to the website and got the pants for around $150

quality seems fine and both are comfortable

tried to get the 1pc suit for $199 but all sold out
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In have a pair of gloves. They are not the greatest, but 500x better than A*. I stick with Teknic or AGV. They are both good products, at a great price.

I have heard bad things about FT. I just figured gloves are pretty safe. A* fell apart by wearing them. I cant imagine crashing in them!
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