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Old 01-27-2011, 09:54 AM   #21
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lol this thread is hilarious and to the guys that think motor oil is fine in bikes yall really crack me up. must be pretty wealthy and like throwing money away, might not cause problems right away, but your doing alot of damage that could be prevented. i will leave it at that. oil is cheap. motors are not.
Motor oil is fine in motorcycles. Wtf would you suggest people run? Gun oil? Olive oil? I've racked up hundreds of hours on high HP MX engines and tens of thousands of miles in my motorcycles over the years and I have never had one single issue by running Rotella in my machines. If the API specs are the same as what the engine manufacturer calls for there will be no issue. Some of the "wealthy" people you mentioned got that way by spending wisely, not folding under advertising pressure and paying too much for identical product. I believe you know a thing or two about engines/mechanics but you discredit yourself with general posts like this. Check your verbage before you jump on your soapbox and start pointing and laughing.
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I know a bunch of guys who run non motorcycle specific synthetic oil. They just don't care to get involved in these threads. They come up too often and are all the same.
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reaaly depends on the bike if you have a harley motor (besides the v-rod and sportsters) where the trans is seperate, then car oil will work. but they are right the additives in car oil will cause issues with clutches
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different bike's clutches are different. if it's still under worenty i wouldn't tell the dealership you ran regular oil
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I know a bunch of guys who run non motorcycle specific synthetic oil. They just don't care to get involved in these threads. They come up too often and are all the same.
True that! The OP could've answered his own question by using the search function too. . .
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is it safe to put mobil one car oil in your bike and what weight is safe to use on a zx6r 636
Why don't you look it up in some zx6r forum? Most of the advice here would be from people with different bikes...

http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r-forum/

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lol this thread is hilarious and to the guys that think motor oil is fine in bikes yall really crack me up. must be pretty wealthy and like throwing money away, might not cause problems right away, but your doing alot of damage that could be prevented. i will leave it at that. oil is cheap. motors are not.
The bolded section, when used on a forum, generally is a drop-in replacement for "this is my opinion, but I want to prevent people from questioning me as I have no facts to back myself up."
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I had a bike that when regular "car" oil was used caused the clutches to slip. Drained it out and put in "motorcycle" oil and went back to normal after a day or 2. So prolly won't do much on a "new" clutch but it will with older clutches
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I used to use that in my 675and busa. My rc51 liked rotella diesel oil. My 1911 likes the mobile1 too. Lol
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I have BMW Boxer (pancake twins) and BMW riders have been using Mobil 1 and engine oils for decades and swear by it. Harley owners do to. HOWEVER, BMW Boxers and big twin Harleys have separate transmissions cases and dry clutches. I think the problem with car oils in your bike could be clutch slippage. I had a Bandit and many forums warned against auto motor oil because of clutch problem. Go down to CycleGear and pick you up some real bike oil.
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I have BMW Boxer (pancake twins) and BMW riders have been using Mobil 1 and engine oils for decades and swear by it. Harley owners do too.
Car and bike oils are all engine oils. Mobil1 is available for car and bikes too. Which one are you talking about?

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HOWEVER, BMW Boxers and big twin Harleys have separate transmissions cases and dry clutches. I think the problem with car oils in your bike could be clutch slippage. I had a Bandit and many forums warned against auto motor oil because of clutch problem.
You are partially right about clutch slippage. Slippage is a problem for wet clutches if "reduced friction" or "low friction" car engine oil is used. Regular Mobil1 synthetic car engine oil is fine for me (I am using it for my V-twin wet clutch for the last 10k miles with no problem, changing it every 3k miles)
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Slippage is a problem for wet clutches if "reduced friction" or "low friction" car engine oil is used.
This is accurate. The offending additives that cause this are zinc and molbydenum.
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Interesting thread. If I was in a pinch for oil, on the road, I would probably be likely to throw any kind of oil I could find, to keep my engine from death. Otherwise, just like any other kind of device, I would use oil specifically designed for the use I am putting it to. Why substitute when you don't need to?

Does it matter? hmmm - most of the formulations are proprietary anyway, so I won't be able to know.

Bottom line, MC oil for MC's. Transmission oil for transmissions. Brake oil for brakes. Pretty simple in my opinion.
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Interesting thread. If I was in a pinch for oil, on the road, I would probably be likely to throw any kind of oil I could find, to keep my engine from death. Otherwise, just like any other kind of device, I would use oil specifically designed for the use I am putting it to. Why substitute when you don't need to?

Does it matter? hmmm - most of the formulations are proprietary anyway, so I won't be able to know.

Bottom line, MC oil for MC's. Transmission oil for transmissions. Brake oil for brakes. Pretty simple in my opinion.
It's soo much more complicated just below the surface. . .
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It's soo much more complicated just below the surface. . .
Indeed. Especially because tranny fluid and brake fluid are hydraulic fluids and not ""oils.""
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Indeed. Especially because tranny fluid and brake fluid are hydraulic fluids and not ""oils.""
right of course - I was hoping the point is taken that there is a reason for using the correct solution for each case...
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