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Old 01-24-2011, 12:13 PM   #1
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Suspension upgrades

I'm looking for info on doing suspension upgrades for track use, my stock Zed suspension isnt going to cut the grade so im looking into upgrading it.

So i guess some questions would be..

1. What is involved in properly upgrading your suspension - specifically for track use?
2. Are there any good write-ups online for this type of thing that you guys have stashed away?
3. Are there any preferred brands/types/standards?
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:35 PM   #4
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I'm looking for info on doing suspension upgrades for track use, my stock Zed suspension isnt going to cut the grade so im looking into upgrading it.

So i guess some questions would be..

1. What is involved in properly upgrading your suspension - specifically for track use?
2. Are there any good write-ups online for this type of thing that you guys have stashed away?
3. Are there any preferred brands/types/standards?
1. Usually cartridges, & correct springs matched to your body weight.
2. There are some that are make/model specific (found one for my bike)
3. A lot of people like Traxxion Dynamics ak20's with a penske rear shock cause Jim cambora (raceworx) does them, and is at every race helping people, then you have the ohlins side. People say ohlins are "harder" to tune, but I went with ohlins myself. So I guess I will be finding out soon enough if its hear-say. So if you like ohlins, then you can talk to SCRC John, or patrick. I picked his brain a little myself when trying to choose.

Its all how much you want to spend, and what parts make you feel better. In the end everyone will share their opinion. From reading a lot though. Everyone in the wera/east coast guys like ohlins, but they have thermosman (ohlins employee) that does his own ohlins with tweaks done to them. Plus the guys up there are really good at setting up ohlins stuff (like with ak20's down here). So its how much support do you want. Cause P1/SCRC John will be at every trackday for Ride Smart selling tire still (and he does ohlins now). So Im sure he would have time to help you tweak your bike. Jim Cambora is a busy man and has a lot of people to make time for (not at all. I know he is the man with ak's).. So ask yourself what you want..

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How much experience do you have? How fast are you?

You will be surprised you fast you can go on stock suspension adjusted by a professional. It's the best 35 bucks you can spend.

Don't get me wrong, upgraded suspension is nice. I have Racetech and Ohlins on my SV.

I would save your money, get some seat time and see if you can outride your stock set up. The Zed will let you know when you're getting close to the edge.

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How much experience do you have? How fast are you?

You will be surprised you fast you can go on stock suspension adjusted by a professional. It's the best 35 bucks you can spend.

Don't get me wrong, upgraded suspension is nice. I have Racetech and Ohlins on my SV.

I would save your money, get some seat time and see if you can outride your stock set up. The Zed will let you know when you're getting close to the edge.

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I typed my response out and included how well I thought I did on my stock suspension that had the geometry, and compression/rebound setup correct for me. I hit the back button on accident though and deleted it. Good advice though

Ill say the reason I decided to upgrade also is that Im 210lbs. Very heavy for stock stuff, and was getting some tearing in my rear tire even with everything as good as it could be. I think thats the reason most people upgrade(besides the obvious reason). Tire wear (or abnormal wear), and also to help increase tire life.

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A great upgrade for the Z1000 is the ZX6R 636 Front forks/brakes/wheel, and the rear shock.

Its basically a straight bolt on, and you get the better front brakes too!

Tons of write-ups on it, and if you search around you can find a good deal on it all
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A good set up with your weight is a great starting point. It allows the tuner to see where your bike is at for you and also to have a conversation about what your intentions for the bike are as well as your skill level. That's where years of tuning experience come in to play in terms of knowledge.
There's lots of options available, from respringing and tuning the stock shim stack to revalving to completely replacing the components; cartridges or shock. What will be the best for you? Start with a base line set up and go from there.
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Great info, thanks for all the feedback, i'll prolly ride it up to the suspension class on 2/6 and get the stock setup the way it should be then try a track day and go from there.

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How much experience do you have? How fast are you?
I've been on the Zed for a year, usually doubling the signs through the forest and HE.

As far as stock I seem to have trouble dialing it in like i want, when i ride the 250 it just rolls into every corner really really easily and im not sure if the Zed is supposed to feel this way or not (because it gives amazing confidence with its weighted feeling consistency mid-turn) but it has a 'heavy' feel to the handling. I know its a little top-heavy but it just feels harder than i would like to pull in. Never had any problems with skipping or anything, i've got about dime sized strips on the 190 rear from my regular casual riding habits.

I guess another factor is im not real clear on the impact the suspension has on the symptoms with the handling.
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