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Old 01-17-2011, 02:54 PM   #1
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As the warm Spring days approach and the blue skies return, we hear or read on the forums about riders going down on street rides. I have searched multiple forum and with my background in Firefighting/EMS I am putting together a "What to do" list if/when somebody goes down. Now granted that not everybody that crashes is in need of Medical care (heck I crashed twice last year and I didn't need them....or its a possibility that I was too stubborn to realize that maybe I did).

This is going to be geared more towards the "street rider" but it can be taken to the track as well.

Other than the major "life threatening injuries" that we (fire/ems) look for, one of the most important treatments is Spinal Immobilization. We always error on the side of precaution when it comes to a MC crash.

So the question is...what can I do to help my riding buddy prior to the Medic unit arrival?

YouTube - Crash helmet removal
YouTube - Crash helmet removal

Above is the way to remove a helmet on a unresponsive patient granted it takes 2 persons to correctly do this. Only do this if it is affecting the breathing/respiration of the downed rider. It is far better to leave the helmet on the patient than remove it.

If you see any active bleeding then place direct pressure on the wound until help arrives. Now I know that many of the riders out there don't carry medical gloves with them on the rides so you will have to make that choice on your own. I can tell you that your skin is a great barrier for fluids. Just make sure your don't have any sores or cuts on your hands.

If there is any fractures noted then try to stabilize them best as possible....ie don't move them.

And last but not least is to provide supportive care to them. Try to keep them calm as possible. Try to keep yourself as calm as possible till help arrives.

*Note**Disclaimer* This is sound advise coming from me. In no shape or form must you do this at all. If you choose to help a fallen rider you are cover under the "Good Samaritan" law.

I will be at most RideSmart TD's this year and if you guys/gals have ANY question before or after a crash, please don't hesitate to ask me. Its my job whether I am on duty or off duty.

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Old 01-17-2011, 03:39 PM   #2
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Thanks that's good info and it may be a good idea, that people who organize rides carry some gloves and at least basic first aid supplies.
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:25 PM   #3
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Thanks that's good info and it may be a good idea, that people who organize rides carry some gloves and at least basic first aid supplies.
Yes it would be a good idea. I might be able to acquire said supplies for some "street rides" with some advanced notice. If somebody wants it. At least some gloves.
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There's a class I posted a couple of weeks ago. Its for accident scenes for motorcycle crashes.
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Well done, Chris. Thank you.

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Thank you guys.

Giong to bump this to the top for anybody who missed it.
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please guys, anyone who choose to use this great advise, use good judgment. sometimes a little info can do more harm because the "user" thinks they have it mastered.
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please guys, anyone who choose to use this great advise, use good judgment. sometimes a little info can do more harm because the "user" thinks they have it mastered.
Exactly, GOOD JUDGMENT is the key word.
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Good read.

As I was reading, it seemed that I had some basics down for helping other people, but what about if you go down and there's no one around to help.

What kind of things should you look for, or do, until help arrives for YOU?
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Good read.

As I was reading, it seemed that I had some basics down for helping other people, but what about if you go down and there's no one around to help.

What kind of things should you look for, or do, until help arrives for YOU?
well... call for help on your phone if you can. at that point though, YOU won't be in a reasonable state of mind. your adrenaline will be pumping and you will continue to function(if capable) until the adrenaline wears off and you collapse/settle down/feel pain etc... always a good plan to NOT run out into traffic cause your worried about your bike and risk getting mowed down by traffic.
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Another thing is place a small piece of paper behind your driver lic./photo ID with a emergency contact information, just in case your phone is damaged and your are unresponsive. We always find the DL for our records and we can turn over the emergency contact info to the ER staff.
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Another thing is place a small piece of paper behind your driver lic./photo ID with a emergency contact information, just in case your phone is damaged and your are unresponsive. We always find the DL for our records and we can turn over the emergency contact info to the ER staff.
best piece of advise ever
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Another thing is place a small piece of paper behind your driver lic./photo ID with a emergency contact information, just in case your phone is damaged and your are unresponsive. We always find the DL for our records and we can turn over the emergency contact info to the ER staff.
Good advice. I also wear my military dog tags with blood type and a red tag ICE with phone numbers and "no med allergies" listed. Pretty inexpensive for both these suggestions.
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