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Old 08-23-2006, 08:26 AM   #1
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ah, you can't kick out all the illegals. too many and to much $, and too many legal hassles. legal kids w/ illegal parents.

IMO, those who are here, have to pay a fee, and become legal. and start paying taxes. THEN lock the borders down.
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ah, you can't kick out all the illegals. too many and to much $, and too many legal hassles. legal kids w/ illegal parents.

IMO, those who are here, have to pay a fee, and become legal. and start paying taxes. THEN lock the borders down.
why couldn't i just pay a fee for my crime and get a clean slate like them??? you're always proclaiming that if a person breaks the law throw the book a them. well????? why is it different now??? heck let everyone that has been to jail for breaking the law pay a fine and get a clean slate. i mean alot of them have legal kids on the outside of jail right??? so don't they need to be with those kids??? why do they get special treatment when breaking the law??? I'm playing devils advocate is all. you can easily kick out illegals by fining companies that hiring them. and by the American public keeping the authorities informed on what's going on. kind of how they told us to keep our eyes peeled for terrorist activities. we can keep our eye peeled for companies that hire illegals. when illegals figure thy have no place to work they will go home.

also wasn't it Cesar Chavez that went came to America to argue against illegal immigration because it was lowering wages of Mexican Americans??? sure was.
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so whats your answer?
from my earlier post.............you can easily kick out illegals by fining companies that hiring them. and by the American public keeping the authorities informed on what's going on. kind of how they told us to keep our eyes peeled for terrorist activities. we can keep our eye peeled for companies that hire illegals. when illegals figure thy have no place to work they will go home.

take away civil services (food stamps etc.) require leasing office to require immigration status before they rent. if they are found to have illegals living on their premises they are steeply fined. take away the law that states if if you have child here then it's a citizen. we are the only country in the world that has that law. any other one if you drop a baby their then they stabilize you and send your happy back home.




by the way i'm all for the wall. don't know if anyone has read the statistics of the 14 mile section of gat they have on the boarder now but crossing isd waaaay down as is other problems normally associtated wit hillegal crossing.
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ok, what about the 11? million illegals here? remember real world solution, not pie in the sky. remember it's already illegal to hire illegals.
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IMO, those who are here, have to pay a fee, and become legal. and start paying taxes. THEN lock the borders down.
Not a feasable solution.

Do you really think that someone that has been working in the country for x years illegally is going to step up and pay a fine just to be legal? Why would they go through this trouble anyway? So they can start paying taxes?
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ok, what about the 11? million illegals here?
that goes under taking away civil servies. (saves us money) also the employers thing sko they can't work. also let cops inquire status on traffic stops. sure these steps will surely not knock out every single illegal but it will knock down a couple million imagine just the illegals gone off of welfare that will be billions back in americans pockets (our in your war effort you support ) and it will also discourage more from coming in.
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w/ the panzy state we live in now. violation of illegals rights is illegal. so that ain't gonna happen. though i do agree that illegals should NOT have any rights.

there is no 1 sure fire fix. but saying to kick them all out is ludicrious.
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there is no 1 sure fire fix. but saying to kick them all out is ludicrious.
why is it so ludicrous and what is keeping laws that support illegal immigrants from being repealed or changed.
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cuz there arn't 10,000 or 100,000 there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of them, they are part of society for better or worse. you can talk about kicking them all out, but realistically that ain't gonna happen.

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why is it so ludicrous and what is keeping laws that support illegal immigrants from being repealed or changed.


you really think all the hippie, tree huggin, illegals are people too, politicians are going to change a law like that? They are the ones that made those laws.
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you really think all the hippie, tree huggin, illegals are people too, politicians are going to change a law like that? They are the ones that made those laws.
there alot of people against illegal immigration. put it up to a vote,

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Not a feasable solution.

Do you really think that someone that has been working in the country for x years illegally is going to step up and pay a fine just to be legal? Why would they go through this trouble anyway? So they can start paying taxes?

Actually, a lot of illegals pay taxes. Not being a legal citizen prevents you from paying taxes.
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Actually, a lot of illegals pay taxes. Not being a legal citizen prevents you from paying taxes.
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from my earlier post.............you can easily kick out illegals by fining companies that hiring them. and by the American public keeping the authorities informed on what's going on. kind of how they told us to keep our eyes peeled for terrorist activities. we can keep our eye peeled for companies that hire illegals. when illegals figure thy have no place to work they will go home.

take away civil services (food stamps etc.) require leasing office to require immigration status before they rent. if they are found to have illegals living on their premises they are steeply fined. take away the law that states if if you have child here then it's a citizen. we are the only country in the world that has that law. any other one if you drop a baby their then they stabilize you and send your happy back home.




by the way i'm all for the wall. don't know if anyone has read the statistics of the 14 mile section of gat they have on the boarder now but crossing isd waaaay down as is other problems normally associtated wit hillegal crossing.
Dude, this will have a big impact in the economy. Kicking them is not the solution, believe or not they are part of you economy.
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alot of illegals pay taxes

being illegal prevents you from paying taxes

i had a hard time w/ what he said also.......lol
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