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Old 08-23-2006, 08:20 AM   #41
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exactly, and yet i'm reading on-line about alot more piddly tickets beign written while more serious crimes are growing by leaps and bounds.
were only the murderous city in texas
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The cops should patrol problem crime spots instead of worrying about dot sticker violations at starbucks. True that not every biker is legal, but I don't think we are contributing to the violent crime rate.
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The cops should patrol problem crime spots instead of worrying about dot sticker violations at starbucks. True that not every biker is legal, but I don't think we are contributing to the violent crime rate.
to a certain degree, but if these squid packs start terrorizing the frwys as they do , then they have to come in and nit pick for minor infractions.
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*applause* hear that the crowd can't believe it racer x acting civil.
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to a certain degree, but if these squid packs start terrorizing the frwys as they do , then they have to come in and nit pick for minor infractions.
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*applause* hear that the crowd can't believe it racer x acting civil.
:laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6
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Have there been biker shooting at people that I haven't heard about? I haven't heard of biker packs being involved in violent crime.
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[quote=ownage]engrish??? rut ro raggy[/quote

translated * were only the murderous city in texas *
We are only the city with the most murders in Texas.
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i'm not blaming the avg. street cop, he's doing what he's told. i'm not criticyzing(sp?) the actual laws. what i'm criticyzing is the allocation of manpower. when crime is up, writing more tickets will only yield so many more warrant people to P/U. while patroling the dangerous apartments, will yield more arrest fore more hanous crimes.
I agree, the allocation is a jacked up. But their is a fine balance that has to be met. You can take more officers from investigative positions (vice, narc, homicide) and put them on the streets to work patrol. But them you have less people solving the cases that patrol officers send up the chain. We don't solves crime, the investigative divisions do. Their caseloads are already sky high. One investigator may have over 100 active cases to work on.

Traffic enforcement is underrated. I'm not talking about writing bs tickets. Most of your good turds will come from traffic stops. Responding to calls is reactive policing, you are responding to crimes that have already occurred. Traffic enforcement with the intent of running everyone you stop for wants/warrants and/or setting up sting operations is proactive policing, you are trying to stop the criminals.

Proactive policing is what catches criminals. Going out and sending UC's in the apartments to buy dope and bust the dealers. Sitting on bait vehicles in order to shut down a chop shop or auto theft ring. Or having plain clothes guys doing surveillance in robbery hot spots. Officers responding to a call after someone is already dead, or doing an auto theft report isn't gonna reduce crime.

But politicians and most citizens dont like proactive police work. Its looks to scary its not politically correct. But as it seems citizens think that officers just driving around in cars reduces crime, when actually it doesn't do squat.

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well racer did pick on english first even though i'm sure he knew what the guy meant cause i know i did. so i guess he deserves this................
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actually i don't, so can you interpret what he said.

"were only the murderous city in texas" ???

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Have there been biker shooting at people that I haven't heard about? I haven't heard of biker packs being involved in violent crime.
it doesn't nec. have to be violent, hauling at 100+ on public roads can't be allowed. that type of lawlessness has to be dealt w/ .
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actually i don't, so can you interpret what he said.


it doesn't nec. have to be violent, hauling at 100+ on public roads can't be allowed. that type of lawlessness has to be dealt w/ .
j rock got it i'm sure you just didn't want to is all.
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"Traffic enforcement with the intent of running everyone you stop for wants/warrants and/or setting up sting operations is proactive policing, you are trying to stop the criminals. "

this makes sense, but then writing a ticket to a reg. person for "no ft plate" or non-DOT compliant sticker, sounds like revenue generation. if said stop is scumbag, throw the book at him.

i don't know, i just read about more and more crime and read about more and more lame tickets. i'm not saying take way from invest./narc/vice , but i am saying take away from T/E and put them on patrol.
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True that reckless driving needs to be handled as it happens, but once again at Dark 30 at night, chances are there is a serious crime taking place other than reflector violations. I am all for pulling over speeders and traffic infractions as they take place. Not having proper safety sticker in place or no reflectors is not going to deter a biker from speeding. That just creates animosity towards the police.
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why would they even waste their time and papers for ft plate ticket? isn't that a "fix" ticket?
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