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Old 12-20-2010, 12:01 PM   #21
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I'm going to try the supercorsas. my street time is very limited, and 10 + track days a year is way more important.
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:07 PM   #22
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I have done racers road for 10 years, and the reason people call the cops is guys hauling on the streets by their house. and just because you're doing 130 in a turn doesn't mean you're turning up the temp on tires from side to side. that's why compounds have been produced to give the middle, sides, and edge a chance to all heat equally. constant turns give a tire enough heat to be sticky.
i am not really a tire expert but you seen to know a great deal about tires so i have uploaded a pic of my front tire with only 300 miles on it after doing a few runs on racer road, it looks like i got it to working temperature cause they are starting to melt on the edges, but again i am not an expert in tires.

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Old 12-20-2010, 12:24 PM   #23
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hmmmmm. I concur. those are definately tires alright. maybe you should make a t-shirt with those pics, and wear it to M&G events.
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:37 PM   #24
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hmmmmm. I concur. those are definately tires alright. maybe you should make a t-shirt with those pics, and wear it to M&G events.
what size do you wear?

Now back on topic: "TIRES" and not "street vs track"

i am looking for a good set of "street tires"! if you had experience with the K3s or SC on the street please advice otherwise keep your "i am better cause i ride at a track comments to yourself please"!
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:39 PM   #25
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Those are NOT melted tires...

Here you go. You can use my pic if you like...

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...and I never hit 130.

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Old 12-20-2010, 12:56 PM   #26
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^^i am using BT016s with only 300+ miles on the "front tire" after 2 runs at RR^^
My stock pirellis that came with the 1098 looked a lot worst than your pic being a softer compound tire.

...and I never hit 130.

Exactly my point you don't need extreme riding conditions like riding at the track to bring a tire up to working temperature, thanks
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:34 PM   #27
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^^i am using BT016s with only 300+ miles on the "front tire" after 2 runs at RR^^
My stock pirellis that came with the 1098 looked a lot worst than your pic being a softer compound tire.

...and I never hit 130.

Exactly my point you don't need extreme riding conditions like riding at the track to bring a tire up to working temperature, thanks
Tires don't get "warmed up" by speed...it's the constant acceleration,braking,flex of the rubber carcass that heat them up.....just FYI
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Tires don't get "warmed up" by speed...it's the constable acceleration,braking,flex of the rubber carcass that heat them up.....just FYI
that is correct, i watched a video on youtube that explained that a few months ago, i think it was posted on hpc
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:55 PM   #29
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that is correct, i watched a video on youtube that explained that a few months ago, i think it was posted on hpc
I was just reading a thread over there yesterday about the Perrelli dragon supercorsas trackday...front what ur describing u want out of a tire they may be what ur looking for. SCRC John had alot of good words about them. I think if I can get over this bridgestone kick I'm gonna either get those or the dragon pro slicks version for the track.
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I was just reading a thread over there yesterday about the Perrelli dragon supercorsas trackday...front what ur describing u want out of a tire they may be what ur looking for. SCRC John had alot of good words about them. I think if I can get over this bridgestone kick I'm gonna either get those or the dragon pro slicks version for the track.
I have always like pirellis so i might just give them a try
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How do you like the BMW compared to your 1098?
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:03 PM   #32
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the S1000RR is a lot faster than the duc, but the frame flexes a bit and i am just not used to that yet, the shift assist is really nice, you can even shift mid corner without having to pull the clutch in and the bike shifts up very smoothly. So far i havent tested the bike on slick mode yet but i am hoping next year i will get to take it to the track and see how it feels riding on slick mode. The beemer is so much faster but the chasis on the duc is a lot more stable, maybe when i get used to the bmw i will change my opinion on the bike, so far only have 860 miles on it and still learning to ride the inline fours.
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Now back on topic: "TIRES" and not "street vs track"

i am looking for a good set of "street tires"!
Perhaps my post was covered by the other OT posts, so here it is again.

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Regardless if you've ridden on the track with these tires or not, you can tell if you like or dislike a tire.

Metzler = Pirelli, same company. Metzlers are geared more toward the street while Pirelli is geared more toward the track. As far as street rubber goes you're going to get similar results from every brand out there. The difference is going to be the wear characteristics and mileage you get, which is directly related to YOUR riding style, bike, and suspension.

The modern street rubber is good stuff, and Bridgestone, Pirelli, Michelin, Metzler, etc all make good street rubber. When I purchase street tires I look toward longevity versus performance because to me, performance on the street is negligible.

What you should do IMHO, is try different brands. Personally I have had excellent feedback AND performance from the 016 and the 003RS on the street. My street mileage is really low though. I also personally like Bridgestones on the track, so that may translate to the "like" of the street tires too.

You should try brands or stick with what you like personally when it comes to tires; rarely does what someone else like directly transfer to someone else.

See John at SCRC, or call Patrick or one of the other sponsors here, they'll all be really glad to help you with this purchase.

Both of the tires you mentioned are good tires, pick one and see what you think about them.
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I love my BT-016's on the street. Decent wear and excellent traction in wet and dry.
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I had the diablo super corsas, and I loved em, but I don't ride quite as fast as you, though I can tell you the rear had two patches and did fine well over 100
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I used to have pirellis now switched to bt016s and have no complaints so far, i can easily get 2500+ miles on the rear tire!
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Sooooooooo.....why don't you just use those?
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I used to have pirellis now switched to bt016s and have no complaints so far, i can easily get 2500+ miles on the rear tire!
the pirelli Rossos actually gave me 8K miles. the diablos, only about 3K
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Both of the tires you mentioned are good tires, pick one and see what you think about them.
Thanks for the good info Tom, i personally like the bt016s so far, i might just stick with bridgetone for the beemer as well.
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