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Old 12-20-2010, 12:35 AM   #1
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Metzeler Racetek K3 vs Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP

First time riding the S1000RR at Racer Road and got a chance to test the Metzeler Racetek K3 tires at a good pace, but just when i was starting to get used to the them i got a nail in my rear tire So now i am debating on which tires to get:

Metzeler Racetek K3 or Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP?

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I was reading on S1000RR forum that the K3s do not perform well under wet conditions so right now i am leaning towards the pirellis.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:09 AM   #5
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I have K3 and I don't like it. It came with the bike so I'm gonna use it till the season starts. I had BT016's on my last bike and loved them. The K3 takes longer to warm up and the traction just doesn't feel right. I am planning on going with the Diablo's next.
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without track time, how can you mke any real judgements?
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Never thought of that cause the nail looks pretty big and i really dont know if they can put a plug on it and how safe would it be at high speed.
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no, don't plug it that's retarded.
but the question remains, as I am replacing my set with what is more than likely the supercorsas. but how can anyone tell on the street? I know a lot of people who are making pretty decent time around the track and just getting the tires up to a real operating temperature. are people actually going fast enough to know the difference, or do they just think they do? this might be a good question for the racers lounge.
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^^to answer your question, i am looking for a street tire that can provide good grip under wet and dry conditions, i dont know how fast you take corners at the track but going through racer road an average of 130+ mph is pretty normal for us so i do want a sticky tire that also offer decent tire wear at the same time. Many sport bike magazines do review street tires riding them through the twisties and can tell if they are good or not without having to go to the track!
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.... going through racer road an average of 130+ mph is pretty normal for us
I've never done racer road and I don't know where it is but I'm going to assume other normal speed people drive/ride it too, if you run those kinds of speeds on public streets you're just another that give sport bike riders the bad name.

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If you have never done racer road how can you speak of it? We have been doing our smrs for over 7 years now and havent killed anyone yet lol..... We usually go early in the morning so very few cars on the road.
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I have done racers road for 10 years, and the reason people call the cops is guys hauling on the streets by their house. and just because you're doing 130 in a turn doesn't mean you're turning up the temp on tires from side to side. that's why compounds have been produced to give the middle, sides, and edge a chance to all heat equally. constant turns give a tire enough heat to be sticky.
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I know I have seen a few threads where people who live down there have put nails oil and other debris down there....I don't think ill be doing 130 anywhere down there....that's probably how u got that nail...be safe man. Come to the track
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I know I have seen a few threads where people who live down there have put nails oil and other debris down there....I don't think ill be doing 130 anywhere down there....that's probably how u got that nail...be safe man. Come to the track
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I know I have seen a few threads where people who live down there have put nails oil and other debris down there....I don't think ill be doing 130 anywhere down there....that's probably how u got that nail...be safe man. Come to the track
in the 7 years i have seen all kinds of obstacles people put on the road, nails, wooden pallets, gravel, oil

Yeah i am supposed to sponsor a local racer next year, if he doesnt race then i will use part of the money to do some track days myself and help out my buddy SDW who is going to be racing for the first time next February
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in the 7 years i have seen all kinds of obstacles people put on the road, nails, wooden pallets, gravel, oil

Yeah i am supposed to sponsor a local racer next year, if he doesnt race then i will use part of the money to do some track days myself and help out my buddy SDW who is going to be racing for the first time next February
Ok 7 Years you have seen all these things....what makes you wanna go 130? i have ridden Racers road and don't see any need to run 130 if you know the danger is there then why are you still flirting with that possibility:shrug what is it gonna take
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Regardless if you've ridden on the track with these tires or not, you can tell if you like or dislike a tire.

Metzler = Pirelli, same company. Metzlers are geared more toward the street while Pirelli is geared more toward the track. As far as street rubber goes you're going to get similar results from every brand out there. The difference is going to be the wear characteristics and mileage you get, which is directly related to YOUR riding style, bike, and suspension.

The modern street rubber is good stuff, and Bridgestone, Pirelli, Michelin, Metzler, etc all make good street rubber. When I purchase street tires I look toward longevity versus performance because to me, performance on the street is negligible.

What you should do IMHO, is try different brands. Personally I have had excellent feedback AND performance from the 016 and the 003RS on the street. My street mileage is really low though. I also personally like Bridgestones on the track, so that may translate to the "like" of the street tires too.

You should try brands or stick with what you like personally when it comes to tires; rarely does what someone else like directly transfer to someone else.

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