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Old 12-14-2010, 04:53 PM   #1
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Knee protection

I'm looking for some serious knee protection for spirited street riding. I've heard some good things about the Alpinestars Reflex guards but I'm looking for something of higher quality and better protection. It comes down to the point that I want to pay for great value instead of brand-names.

Also, I've been reading and a few people on another forum/site have mentioned that wearing such knee protection like the Alpinestars Bionic Knee Guard will actually create more force which will snap your femur. Is there any truth into this? Any experience with the items below or similar? Thanks.

$24.95 Alpinestars Reflex Knee Guards http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...spx?sst=RR|491

$12.95 Shift Racing Enforcer Knee/Shin Guards http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...in-Guards.aspx

$71.99 EVS Strata Knee/Shin Guard http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...em=EVS_SK-SM_G

$99.95 Alpinestars Bionic Knee Guard http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...px?sst=RR|1814
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I have the reflexes they have saved my knees twice

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$24.95 Alpinestars Reflex Knee Guards http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...spx?sst=RR|491
... was it the same pair that saved your knees twice? If it was, that's quality construction.
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... was it the same pair that saved your knees twice? If it was, that's quality construction.
YEP same pair but I have not had a "serious" wreck, but any meeting between your kneecaps and concrete will not be a good one
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Yes sirs, I'm gonna keep the bike and attempt to restore it to riding status for the next season. As for the fairings and the aesthetics, I'm gonna slap a couple of bandages for fun until I come across some good deals for replacing the fairings.

I can't walk away from the addiction. I just need to be even more careful than before.
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here is my take on knee pads. Most of the damage that I have seen falls into three categories:
1) impact
2) bending
3) abrasion

The cheaper knee pads are primarily padding with straps to keep the padding facing the impact direction. Some have abrasive resistant (plastic) surfaces. These will do a good to fair job of protecting from 1 and 3.

On my riding pants the manufacturer placed knee padding, but the amount of movement leads me to worry about the padding not being between my knee and the concrete. Make sure that any knee protection that you pick up will stay where it is meant to be throughout your full range of motion. Squat, jump, stretch.

The protection from bending the leg past lock in the wrong direction or sideways is problematic. In order to prevent this the bracing on the sides has to transfer any force it receives somewhere and this can cause a fracture at the end of the bracing. Although this may be viewed as undesirable my thought is that the broken bone is easily mended compared to the complex and "never right again" surgeries that would be required for a blown knee.

I have not spent the money for bracing and ride with icon street armor shin guards (+2 years) and surprisingly they have lasted pretty well. Unless you are off roading and jumping the hazards you will most likely face will be abrasion and impact. So go with the inexpensive ones that fit and stay in place. I would recommend asking racers (track and dirt) their opinion on the brace style and do additional research. Save your money till you have done more digging.

Long winded and not very helpful. Good luck and I hope you never have to test your new equipment.
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Yes sirs, I'm gonna keep the bike and attempt to restore it to riding status for the next season. As for the fairings and the aesthetics, I'm gonna slap a couple of bandages for fun until I come across some good deals for replacing the fairings.

I can't walk away from the addiction. I just need to be even more careful than before.
I'm glad to hear this man
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I ordered the EVS strata, but sent them back the day after I got them. They are LARGE, designed for motocross to deflect rocks and stuff flying at your knees/shins, not so much for street riding/falling... They don't fit under jeans, and they will scrape up your bike if worn over your pants (ask me how I know )... Have you looked at Icon's leg armor? This is what I'm getting to replace the EVS...

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Yes sirs, I'm gonna keep the bike and attempt to restore it to riding status for the next season. As for the fairings and the aesthetics, I'm gonna slap a couple of bandages for fun until I come across some good deals for replacing the fairings.

I can't walk away from the addiction. I just need to be even more careful than before.
I think I just may cry outta happiness! Lol
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You should just trade bikes... Since you like to keep yours in the garage so much... Won't make a difference wether is ride-able or not...and at least you'll have a better excuse..


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You should just trade bikes... Since you like to keep yours in the garage so much... Won't make a difference wether is ride-able or not...and at least you'll have a better excuse..


Oh yeah, I went there
lol I always ride, Just not as much as before bc its cold as outside!! haha and I dont have a job that allows me only 9-5...so they are reasons, not excuses
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I ordered the EVS strata, but sent them back the day after I got them. They are LARGE, designed for motocross to deflect rocks and stuff flying at your knees/shins, not so much for street riding/falling... They don't fit under jeans, and they will scrape up your bike if worn over your pants (ask me how I know )... Have you looked at Icon's leg armor? This is what I'm getting to replace the EVS...

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YouTube - Joe rocket speedmaster boots 2.0 and icon leg armor
Thanks for the video, it really puts the icon knee armor into perspective when someone wears them.

I really thought about getting more protection than the Icon. I'm looking for more armor right above the knee towards the thigh area and straps on the back of the calf and thigh. Also, I want the knee area to have a strap to keep the knee cup in place otherwise it might not provide protection when flipping and tumbling on concrete.

I've been researching for quite a while and most knee armor are very bulky because it's built to fit a wide range of people. Knee guards come in multiple categories; knee cups, knee guards, and knee braces. Within each category there is a wide variety of differences and coverage. The variety of coverage are; above the knee, behind the calf, and side of knees. Most knee protection include the shin area.

The best one I've found was the Thor Force knee. These cover the knees, above the knees, side of knees, shins (don't need it because I have full boots), and padding behind the calf and thigh. I get hot easily so I'll end up riding much less during the summer months because of the extra padding.

I'm going to save up some money and get the Thors unless I find something better or someone introduces me to something else.

On a side note, check out this armor I wish I could have. It's from the game Vanquish.

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On a side note, check out this armor I wish I could have. It's from the game Vanquish.
If you want that check out http://www.405th.com/forum.php They can probably help you make some. Just make sure you have enough foam between you and the hard stuff to help with deceleration forces.
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If safety is such a concern why don't you just go with an armored leather or textile pant for spirited rides? Knee pads won't help much if the straps get torn off from sliding.
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Get leathers with pucks and go to the track to roll your knees on the concrete/asphalt....
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If safety is such a concern why don't you just go with an armored leather or textile pant for spirited rides? Knee pads won't help much if the straps get torn off from sliding.
I've thought about leather pants as a future purchase. In the mean time I'm looking for casual alternatives such as if I was going to a friend's house before going to eat at a restaurant. Also, if I'm not mistaken, leather pants would increase my body heat which is why I'm looking at alternatives.

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Get leathers with pucks and go to the track to roll your knees on the concrete/asphalt....
I don't have much knowledge about leather pants but do they cover the entire knee cap or do they just have pucks for leaning?
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