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Old 12-13-2010, 12:39 AM   #41
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RIP. It's hard to lose and bury a child. It may even be extremely hard for this father. Prayers sent.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:34 AM   #42
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Some people are quick to place blame. I didn't see where any details were given on how it happened or what caused it to happen. You can definitely find gear for the little ones if you try. My son has ridden with me many times and we will remember each one of those and look for more opportunities to ride together.

It is sad when a little one is taken but death is part of life.

I suppose many of you think I shouldn't take my son out on the boat either. We have safety gear for that too. I think that my son and I should continue to enjoy spending as much time together having fun as possible.

I hope this father felt the same way and that it doesn't turn out that he was doing something stupid to cause the accident.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:12 AM   #43
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When I was 5 my uncle used to take me riding on his bike-never thought much of it-just gave me an early desire to ride . My parents were good parents -yet now I guess it would be considered reckless, and a tragedy is now a crime. It is a tragedy to be sure and will be more after the legal system finishes with him, his family life will probably be destroyed after this as well as his professional life if he had one. The death of his child probably destroyed his soul. So sad for the dead child and the parents and family who are affected. RIP
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:38 AM   #44
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this is really sucks to hear. RIP to the little angel. i pray that this accident was not due to the father making a mistake, and if it was his fault there is nothing you could possibly do to make him feel any worse than what he already does. also i cannot believe some people have "somewhat" started to bash this guy with out having read or heard all of the facts in this case. some of you e-thugs make my sick.

i have a 3yr old daughter and have given her so many rides on my bike i lost count. she ask me just about everyday to go for a ride, she absolutely loves riding. i live in a very very small neighbor hood with only 1 main circling back street (which i stay off of) and all the rest are dead ends. so she only gets to purr down to the end of the street and back. she always has her lid on and the other gear i always make her put on (she looks like a swollen penguin waddeling around in her gear). even though we never gone faster than 15mph, i would never let her ride without gear. i have thought about (what if something happens) every single time i give her a ride. i couldnt live with myself is something like that ever happened to her especially if it was due to ignorance on my part.

i love giving my daughter rides because i personally grew up on the back of a motorcycle. unlike most people, my single parent dad had only one means of transportation when my little sister and i where babies which was a 1977 HD shovelhead. good thing is he was smart enough to find us tiny little brain buckets to put on our heads. i remember for my 5th birthday party the only thing i wanted was for my dad to TAKE ME FOR AN ALL DAY LONG RIDE. i can remember riding with my dad so many times and it is hands down my most fondest memories as a child i have. in fact i learned how to ride a motorcycle on that bike when i was just 14years old and that just adds more fond memories.

i pray for this family and all of the heartache that they are going through and will continue to go through for many years to come. i swear some get taken out way to soon in life, way to soon. prayers deff sent for this family.
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that brings back memories... , mine use to walk awound in the house for hours with in gear on....
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:02 AM   #46
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when i was 3-4, i remember my going riding with my dad. I would sit on the gas tank and rest my feet on the top of the fairings and hold onto the handle bars like i was the one steering. I always had a helmet on and i loved it. Thought it was the coolest EVER. I always asked him to do a wheelie while i was with him but he never did..
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I suppose many of you think I shouldn't take my son out on the boat either. We have safety gear for that too.
Not even close to being the same. Not that I disagree with what you are trying to say. I never took my daughter on my bike. Period. I don't care how good of a rider you are, you can NEVER count on the vehicles around you to drive well. We all take calculated risks every day we get up. I don't think the ones like you or Mike are bad parents for doing it. But it isn't a risk I'm willing to take with my little one. , putting my daughter in my big tahoe still makes me nervous. I'm waiting for that one day some idiot hits me.

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when i was 3-4, i remember my going riding with my dad. I would sit on the gas tank and rest my feet on the top of the fairings and hold onto the handle bars like i was the one steering. I always had a helmet on and i loved it. Thought it was the coolest EVER. I always asked him to do a wheelie while i was with him but he never did..
Thats how I rode as a kid. Not with proper gear though. It was fun back then. Again, not a risk I would take with MY little girl. That being said. RIP, I don't care if it was the dad's fault, if she had gear or not, etc. Bottom line is, if he was taking her for a ride, it was a man that cherrished his time with his kid, he will no longer be able to share moments with her again. Something I would never wish on any parent. Sad day.
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Some people are quick to place blame. I didn't see where any details were given on how it happened or what caused it to happen. You can definitely find gear for the little ones if you try. My son has ridden with me many times and we will remember each one of those and look for more opportunities to ride together.

It is sad when a little one is taken but death is part of life.

I suppose many of you think I shouldn't take my son out on the boat either. We have safety gear for that too. I think that my son and I should continue to enjoy spending as much time together having fun as possible.

I hope this father felt the same way and that it doesn't turn out that he was doing something stupid to cause the accident.
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RIP to the little girl. It's a parents' worst nightmare.
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Not a large enough number to put a + with....
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:33 AM   #51
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Not a large enough number to put a + with....
My family is no stranger to burying their children. We have lost more than I care to mention. It is never easy or painless. Each of the mothers lose something; something they never get back.

There is no room for blame or hateful words.
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I'm confused...

You guys flame people all the time for letting passengers ride with no gear.

All I see here is sympathy. I personally mourn the loss of any child but I feel like the father showed extreme negligence and should be treated accordingly. There are plenty of ways to get a child riding.

Small dirt bikes.
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something. For them to have hit a curb means that they were on the open road or somewhere where they could have been going fast enough for death to happen. You don't take an "un-geared" child out on open roads. You just dont.
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I'm confused...

You guys flame people all the time for letting passengers ride with no gear.

All I see here is sympathy. I personally mourn the loss of any child but I feel like the father showed extreme negligence and should be treated accordingly. There are plenty of ways to get a child riding.

Small dirt bikes.
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something. For them to have hit a curb means that they were on the open road or somewhere where they could have been going fast enough for death to happen. You don't take an "un-geared" child out on open roads. You just dont.
I thought it didn't say no gear. Maybe I should read it again.
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I found it - it doesn't say anything about gear, bike style, or other information about the accident. When my Godson died in a bicycle accident, he broke his neck and a helmet would not have saved him - her injury could have been similar.
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Nor can I. I had to go with the information in the thread.

The consensus was that there was in fact no gear worn by the child.
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Nor can I. I had to go with the information in the thread.

The consensus was that there was in fact no gear worn by the child.
That is just stupidity. You should never assume anything. It was never mentioned that she wasn't wearing gear -at least a helmet (as is the law). The story did mention that a child under five is not allowed on a m/c, but because they did not mention about the helmet I can only assume she was wearing one - or else I'm sure they would have mentioned him breaking that law.
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the article didnt give many details at all. maybe there is an investigation and not many details have been releasesd.
when my brother in law died this year there never was a clear story. just which version of the story you chose to beleive in. i think an investigation might still be going.
i just hope the father can have a life after this. i re-worded that last sentance so many times. i just dont really know what to say. i have a 5yo girl and couldnt imagine losing her like this.
i dont know what kind of man this guy is, but i can imagine how he feels right now.
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That is just stupidity. You should never assume anything. It was never mentioned that she wasn't wearing gear -at least a helmet (as is the law). The story did mention that a child under five is not allowed on a m/c, but because they did not mention about the helmet I can only assume she was wearing one - or else I'm sure they would have mentioned him breaking that law.
Just making a point. We can argue about right and wrong, and our arguments may be well-founded, but we don't know the truth.

By flaming like this we are no better than those radicals who protest at funerals.
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May she rest in peace.

Her fathers life is now a shattered semblence of what it used to be. If he can find to strength to go on, he'll be reminded each and every second of her. I cannot phantom what he has gone through to this point, nor what he will continue to go through for the rest of his natural life. I offer my condoleces to him and his family.
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