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Old 12-09-2010, 11:44 AM   #21
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Motorcycles are exempt from emissions testing in TX. But, there is some law on the books that states you cannot alter an emissions component to function in a way that is not oem stock on vehicles used on public roads. A strict reading of that law would mean nothing but stock. that has not happened yet, but the law is in place in Texas. A few years back we researched it all at work (junkyard/bodyshop/repair shop)and thought it was pretty funny since Texas has nothing in place to enforce ANY of it.

I guess overall I am not surprised to see California hold the owners of motorcycles to the same standard as the manufacturer of motorcycles. On newer bikes I have yet to see an exhaust that really makes any difference other than noise compared to stock. These are not the days where a jet kit, exhaust and filter will get you ten or more horsepower.
Definitely agree. To be honest, I did my mods cause I love muzzy pipes. I know that people say the whole loud pipes saving lives is bullshit, but I can't count the times that I was driving next to someone who was around with the cell phone and a quick rev of the engine didn't catch their attention.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:17 PM   #22
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The aftermarket blinkers on my bike also stated that they were for off road use only, and to this point have passed inspection every time. And I've had police follow me at night when I was using them and to this point never had a problem. Unenforced regulations are pointless. I think the manufacturers just put those off road labels on their products to cover their .
it's because Texas law does not require blinkers on motorcycles.

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it's because Texas law does not require blinkers on motorcycles.

Hand signals are OK.
I've never used hand signals, and in one of the situations I was referring to, it was on a Saturday night, about the time the bars closed. I had a LEO following me, I stopped at a light, used my blinkers to make the turn, and he or she left me alone I still say that the manufacturers are just covering their when they put "for off road use only." Seriously, why would you need blinkers for off road use anyways. My Muzzy slipon also said for off road use and it's passed inspection every time, and LEOs have never said a word about it when I've been pulled over.
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It's still a couple years away before they can enforce it, I'm sure the bigger exhaust manufacturers will figure something out so they will be legal there. Just have to tone the noise down a bit. If we can put a man on the moon I'm sure they can bring down the decibels and keep the performance gains. Some manufacturers like Akrapovic already offer EPA approved exhausts that sound better than stock and give performance gains. The rest will follow suit I'm sure. Similar laws were passed this year in other states as well. Everyone take a deep breath.
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It's still a couple years away before they can enforce it, I'm sure the bigger exhaust manufacturers will figure something out so they will be legal there. Just have to tone the noise down a bit. If we can put a man on the moon I'm sure they can bring down the decibels and keep the performance gains. Some manufacturers like Akrapovic already offer EPA approved exhausts that sound better than stock and give performance gains. The rest will follow suit I'm sure. Similar laws were passed this year in other states as well. Everyone take a deep breath.
I praying for a grandfather clause myself. BTW, I'm sure I've seen silencers for aftermarket pipes being advertised. Assuming this really is just a noise issue.
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I praying for a grandfather clause myself. BTW, I'm sure I've seen silencers for aftermarket pipes being advertised. Assuming this really is just a noise issue.
Most of the nice ones come with removable inserts that take a lot of the noise away. I had the silencers in my EPA approved Akras for my Aprilia and it still sounded nice. Wasn't much louder than stock it just had a nicer sounding note. Had it dynoed with the silencers in and still got some extra bhp. Some manufacturers just make some pretty ridiculous sounding exhaust. Leo Vinces are nice but some of them are just over the top. The ones that I was looking at on the Aprilia looked nice but when I heard them they were just waaay too loud. The Leo Vince GP style ones for the Honda 1000's sound like a Harley at idle and F1 car once you get going. And most of he ones for cruisers aren't even exhausts they are just extended header pipes. I think it's definitely trickier trying to make a nice sounding exhaust that will be legal for a inline 4 because they rev so high. You almost have to make them sound like a sewing machine at idle in order for them not to blow out your eardrums at 15k rpm.
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Yep, every manufacturer will have a removable silencer with a disclaimer to remove for off road use only. Unless it's obnoxious, cops probably wont bat an eyelash.
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DAMNIT I just cut my muffler in half to get a better sound, found it too! I'm really proud of my work too, this is disapointing to hear about but when I had my Apexi muffler on my Lexus it came with an insert and it made a nice difference in sound. I'd leave it in most of the time, but when I was feeling frisky I'd take it out and it felt like driving a different car (it's all mental). I modified my exhaust on the bike to get the right sound not the performance these bikes are fast as they come, but I like a balance of engine clatter/exhaust note, if I can hear one more than the other I am at unrest.
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Most of the nice ones come with removable inserts that take a lot of the noise away. I had the silencers in my EPA approved Akras for my Aprilia and it still sounded nice. Wasn't much louder than stock it just had a nicer sounding note. Had it dynoed with the silencers in and still got some extra bhp. Some manufacturers just make some pretty ridiculous sounding exhaust. Leo Vinces are nice but some of them are just over the top. The ones that I was looking at on the Aprilia looked nice but when I heard them they were just waaay too loud. The Leo Vince GP style ones for the Honda 1000's sound like a Harley at idle and F1 car once you get going. And most of he ones for cruisers aren't even exhausts they are just extended header pipes. I think it's definitely trickier trying to make a nice sounding exhaust that will be legal for a inline 4 because they rev so high. You almost have to make them sound like a sewing machine at idle in order for them not to blow out your eardrums at 15k rpm.
I hate the fact that mine sounds like a weed eater when it idling. It sounds awesome when I'm riding and the RPM's are up thoughl The good news is that if ol Holtzclaw is on the prowl I can up shift and it's fairly quiet.

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Yep, every manufacturer will have a removable silencer with a disclaimer to remove for off road use only. Unless it's obnoxious, cops probably wont bat an eyelash.
Again, manufacturers covering their . It covers them for federal, state, and city ordinances (no clue about loud cruiser pipes though).
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