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Old 12-06-2010, 02:59 PM   #1
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Sport tourer advice?

So I think I might want an old man bike. Well.. not really, but something comfortable to ride long distances on. I ride an SV650S and it makes my knees ache, sore and back hurt (Apart from that i love it..). I've ridden it on a few long rides now - eg out to the three sisters, dallas/ft worth etc and after about 200 miles or so I need to get off it every 30 minutes and walk around. Also my girlfriend hates riding on the back cause its not comfortable for her either. I'm still a slow rider, but I enjoy riding around the twisties anyway, so I'm not really looking for a cruiser/goldwing type deal but more like a VFR800 or something.

Only problem is, I looked at insurance for a ~2006 VFR and its double what I'd be paying now for full coverage. For that money I could insure a 600 which also tempts me (complete opposite.. I know)..

What other sporty sports tourers are there out there I should look at? not just from insurance cost..
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:03 PM   #2
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I could be wrong, but don't think you are gonna find many sport touring bikes with insurance less than a vfr....try different insurance company.
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Dude, I have a '05 VFR and love it. Sure its not as light and nimble as a true sport bike but it'll keep up in the turns and tops out at about 160mph on the straights but from what your describing for the type of riding you want you won't be running wide open on the straights. VFR's are great bikes for long rides and still offer a ton of performance in the turns. Check out vfrd.com for some more info... as you'll see tons of reviews state, its a bike that's good at everything but excels at nothing.

Other reason I love the bike is they make hard bags which are great for longer rides (weekend+) trips and you can get some killer deals on 6th gen models.


btw, how much were your quotes for your insurance?
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:11 PM   #4
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Try calling state farm or ball insurance. They usually have cheaper insurance. Progressive wanted $7,000 a year for full coverage on my Fireblade. State Farm gave me the same coverage for about $1,100 a year. Lots of companies give you outrageous quotes because they simply don't want to insure a sporty bike because most people wad them up. Especially Japanese bikes. Since most noob accidents happen on bikes because that is what noobs buy some insurance companies jack up the prices on all of them. Ask them to quote a similar Euro bike and if it is a lot cheaper then you know this is one of the companies that does this and then move on to another.
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I did 1,000 miles on my SV over 6 days a few weeks ago and I wasn't sore at all, on the RF600 I'm sore after 50 miles. It's all about how it's set up. I'm tall so my clip ons fit me perfect and make me sit straight up instead of slouching like higher bars would do. Maybe you could try some bars instead of clip ons?
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There is a dude that I bump into in the mornings going to work intermitantly.

I have no idea what the bike is but it's freaking gorgious to me.

It's a brand new sports/tourer, detachable hard bags and trunk, shaft drive, tall
body work and the bars pull way back. He has a veitnam campaign ribbon/sticker on his lid and lives in F-wood and goes to Clearlake in the mornings.

I like his scooter...

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I "think" it may be what Morvegel posted but have never really seen the front, usually ride behind him till I pass then gone.
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I'd get the new Ninja 1000 over that. I don't like the lack of wind protection
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True but these things are dirty cheap at the dealers and should be easier on the insurance
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Old 12-06-2010, 05:49 PM   #14
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Definitely going to check out the triumph, thats a good looking bike. ST, FJR etc are probably out as they look like more bike than I want. Some VFRs around texas in my price range. I like the z1000 but would prefer something with fairings.

Insurance - asked my agent at statefarm for a quote as they were able to do magic for my car insurance. Someone asked what the quotes came out to be:
Current bike (06 sv650s w/ progressive) - 1000/year
VFR with:
Progressive - 2000/year
Geico - 2675/year

The collision on all of these is brutally expensive, if I didn't want that it would be within a couple hundred of the sv650..

All quoted for the same level of coverage. I live in Montrose, am 27 (seriously it feels like my body is falling apart on me over the past few months.. is this what its like to get old ) and single, and only been riding for 7-8 months so that all probably factors into it.

Someone commented about putting new bars on the SV - I may have to look into this as well. 1000/miles over a week wouldn't be too bad. I did an 800 mile weekend and it murdered me. Its funny to me because when I was in vietnam I rode 2 weeks on a little 125cc minsk two stroke with worn out seat and despite 12-13 hour days it was nowhere near as bad as that riding my bike for the same time. Even when my compressed the foam so much that I was sitting on the seat pan or rails or whatever..

Edit - checked insurance .. Sprint is more than the VFR from progressive by a considerable margin. I'll see what my statefarm agent says about the VFR.

Anyway, thanks for y'alls help. Gives me enough to keep looking.

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By your description, I would suggest checking out a Suzuki GSX-650F

Good seat for the passenger, Low priced, upright riding position, good power. Also good on insurance.

Here is a link to Suzuki about the bike.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/en/Produ...9/GSX650F.aspx

Here is the link to Givi about bags

http://www.giviusa.com/My-motorcycle...SX-650F-08--09


Corbin even makes a comfy seat for it.
http://www.corbin.com/suzuki/sgsx657cds.shtml

I have one in the showroom that I could show you.
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Give Ball Insurance a shot, I pay $400ish a year on my SV for liability, comprehensive and collision.
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Do you have anything on your record? (tickets/accidents?) That seems unusually high, even for full coverage, on an SV650.

FWIW Im 33 and have no accidents/tickets and pay $450 for extended liability/comprehensive/uninsured motorists for a 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650r with Allstate.
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Yeah my insurance is super high. I moved here 18 months ago from Australia and I don't have much in the way of credit history or driving history in the states (I can't bring any of that over from home) so it probably contributes a lot to insurance cost. Its a massive pain for other things like cell phone, credit cards etc too.
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Yeah my insurance is super high. I moved here 18 months ago from Australia and I don't have much in the way of credit history or driving history in the states (I can't bring any of that over from home) so it probably contributes a lot to insurance cost. Its a massive pain for other things like cell phone, credit cards etc too.
Why are you here? Go back to Australia and enjoy ATCC SuperCars. Bathurst!


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Looks like the FJR but has a single exhaust up the right side under the bag and the can is contoured to the bag and swingarm.

What ever it is, I actually follow for a while just oggling his scoot before I make my way through traffic every time.

I hate being poor...
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