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Old 12-02-2010, 07:16 AM   #1
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Kind of dry reading, but bottom line is that wearing light, bright jacket and helmet helps a lot, as does use of reflective materials in the clothing. Headlight use of course helps. Color of motorcycle had very little effect.
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Old 12-02-2010, 07:19 AM   #2
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, If my girlfriend reads this article... i will never hear the end of this since I typically wear all black riding gear.

Oh well I was thinking of going hi-viz anyway...lol
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, If my girlfriend reads this article... i will never hear the end of this since I typically wear all black riding gear.

Oh well I was thinking of going hi-viz anyway...lol
don't worry about it, wearing black helps you get noticed too because everyone is like "wow, is that ghost rider?"
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:47 AM   #4
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:51 AM   #5
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:54 AM   #6
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Just bought a Halo reflective band for my night time helmet.
It'd be nice if someone made a bike model specific shape and color reflective tape (other than rim tape) to add to the bike.

My bike is white and silver which is easy to match but don't want a bunch of little cut up square tape blocks on my bike.
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an article that has references cited, I love it
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All my stuff is black but I have hreflective bits on it.

Lighter color stuff is PITA to keep even remotely clean if you ride all conditions.
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I think the article is looking at the wrong issue. They are assuming that correlation=causation (it doesn't). The main problem I see is the behavioral aspect of the riders. Voluntary use of "uncool" reflective gear points to a psychological propensity for injury avoidance. Additionally their data shows a more significant result in the following categories of risk:

No licence, Lapsed, lost, missing or learner; control = 26%, post crash cases = 42.3%, result =62% more likely to F#$% up.
Familiarity (KM<1000); control = 13.5%, post crash cases = 21.4%, result = 58.5% more likely to F#$% up.

I am completely agreeing that lite colored helmets and reflective gear will make you more likely to be seen by idiot cagers (which is why I wear it).

Cliff's notes: more important than added visibility don't be an idiot/ride illegaly and be careful when you are a noob.
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why is it that no matter what you say on MH someone HAS to contradict it?? Is it somewhere in the forum rules? How could I have missed it?

You can say 1+1 is 2 and somehow someone will argue that numbers are just construct of the human imagination. Then someone else will chime in and say that numbers are for squids and then someone else will put up a picture of . I can never follow any of the discussions on here.
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I think people don't wear the high viz coats (neon green etc) b/c they think it doesn't have the 'cool' factor. Personally after travelling all over the world and seeing riders in different countries I think N.A. is one of the last regions to really accept it as common place. If you go to Australia or the UK, Europe you see alot of riders wearing high viz clothes, and is it just me or do you see alot more high viz coats at the bike shops lately? ... although I never see anyone wearing them riding.
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Seems most crashes happen at slow speeds. Solution = ride faster.

My jacket has some decently sized reflective bits in the logo front and back (dainese) but actually I've been thinking about ordering one of the hi viz vests for night time.
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You can say 1+1 is 2 and somehow someone will argue that numbers are just construct of the human imagination. Then someone else will chime in and say that numbers are for squids and then someone else will put up a picture of . I can never follow any of the discussions on here.
with as many members as MH has, the odds that all will agree on something is near 0... unless of course you say something bad about nanci pelosi, but even then there used to be someone here that would still disagree that wrote in purple.

but on topic, I once had a ninja 600 painted highlighter yellow that would looked like it was glowing in the dark and still had people not see me. by the time they see a brightly painted bike, you are beside them, front to back doesn't have the cross section to draw enough attention to the color
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