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Old 12-09-2010, 06:52 AM   #21
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Glad you're ok. Hope you get back on the road again soon. Been there, done that.
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:54 AM   #22
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That was me dude, I have a black 03 zx636. Wasn't goofing off or anything, I just had trouble in that turn is all. The main mistake I made was somewhat trying to keep up with my buddy who was riding ahead of me. He took the turn pretty quick. Knowing I couldn't take it nearly as quickly as him, I did the wise thing and slowed down. Nonetheless, about halfway thru that turn, I started getting nervous, I was veering to the right and felt like I couldn't get the bike to go any more to the left. Most likely just due to a lack of experience. Anyway, veered to the right, saw the gravel in the shoulder getting closer and closer, and I ended up high-siding. Just got banged up, and the bikes damage is mostly cosmetic, though there is something wrong mechanically as its a bit hard to push forward even in neutral and with the clutch pulled in now.

Oh and that tire on the side of the road was a new tire for my buddy. We were on the way to a tire shop in pasadena, he was gonna get that one installed and I was gonna get a new rear.

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Old 12-09-2010, 07:02 AM   #23
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Where the do you guys get target fixation? It seems to me that he did not have the confidence to make the turn. As a result he did not. Sounds like he was on the brakes in the turn also.
Uh, we call it "reading".

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Anyway, veered to the right, saw the gravel in the shoulder getting closer and closer, and I ended up high-siding.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:19 AM   #24
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I read the same thing. I don't see that as fixation. Seeing the ground just before you hit it is not fixation.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:26 AM   #25
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I read the same thing. I don't see that as fixation. Seeing the ground just before you hit it is not fixation.
Hmmm, well, the bike tends to go where you look. I don't think the rider wanted the bike to go into the gravel. The gravel became the target, but whatever.
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Nonetheless, about halfway thru that turn, I started getting nervous, I was veering to the right and felt like I couldn't get the bike to go any more to the left.

This really sounds like fixation? Sounds to me like he just didn't lean it and ran out of road.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:52 AM   #27
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Nonetheless, about halfway thru that turn, I started getting nervous, I was veering to the right and felt like I couldn't get the bike to go any more to the left.

This really sounds like fixation? Sounds to me like he just didn't lean it and ran out of road.
Yea, and if he looked where he wanted to go and applied a little more counter steering he probably could have saved it. Watching the gravel in the shoulder getting closer and closer is not going to help at all.

Rule number one, look where want to go. Are you going to debate that?
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He did not know how to make the turn. The root cause is not target fixation. That's all I was trying to say.
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He did not know how to make the turn. The root cause is not target fixation. That's all I was trying to say.
Seems to me he was merely out of his comfort zone, panicked and looked for a place to crash instead of looking through the turn. That's not a highly technical turn he crashed on.
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