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Old 11-27-2010, 12:41 PM   #41
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Thats is one of the reasons i havent done any track days yet, i am afraid that doing after a few track days i am going to quit riding the streets. I really enjoy riding with my buddies and hang out and talk when we take a break at a gas station, to me riding on sundays is like a social event, most of my friends work hard during the week and we dont get to see each other until sunday, so even when my stupid duc is out of battery i still show up in my car just to say hi to the lucky ones that do get to enjoy the day on their bikes.
Excatly. But I am going to start this spring. New trailer for XMASS...gotta give it a try.
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:49 PM   #42
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Excatly. But I am going to start this spring. New trailer for XMASS...gotta give it a try.
If I didnt have to work today or had my lil one...I woulda jumped on that special they were running fml
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:57 PM   #43
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Excatly. But I am going to start this spring. New trailer for XMASS...gotta give it a try.
Trailer for one or two bikes?
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Old 11-27-2010, 01:08 PM   #44
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Thats is one of the reasons i havent done any track days yet, i am afraid that doing after a few track days i am going to quit riding the streets. I really enjoy riding with my buddies and hang out and talk when we take a break at a gas station, to me riding on sundays is like a social event, most of my friends work hard during the week and we dont get to see each other until sunday, so even when my stupid duc is out of battery i still show up in my car just to say hi to the lucky ones that do get to enjoy the day on their bikes.
... true!! he always does! LOL
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Old 11-27-2010, 01:49 PM   #45
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an old topic that comes up over and over.

track days have helped me trust my tires... i joke and tell people it has corrupted me on the street. no longer do i obey any sign that says 35mph corner. it's stupid but thanks to the track i know i can rail around it.
Thats why I dont ride that much any more. I know what I can do and when you have a lime creek road on your back yard and a ton of other curvy roads, you can get carried away (on a stretcher).

Last time I rode Lime Creek, I was railing. I couldnt help it, I had got passed real close on the same lane by a bunch of dicks on their new Gixxers on the way to Lime Creek. I was on my 02 F4i. I got on it once we got to Lime Creek and by the time I got to the fastest guy out front, he was waving me by.

My pride and machismo kicked my common sense and intelligence on their out the door and took over ship.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:49 AM   #46
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Ive had one trackday, and yes its helped my street riding a ton.
The track will let you push your bike to its limits and your limits in a fairly safe environment.
I believe its made me pay closer attention to the road surface, and definately helped me make judgements of speed and corner enterance speed.

Basically after tracking the bike i feel much more 'comfortable' and 'close' to the bike, like i have much better control and menuverability.
Im definately going back a few times next season.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:59 PM   #47
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Same here I enjoy the streets but not like I use to. Once you go black you don't go back
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:21 PM   #48
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Street riding is more about lack of common sense and ego than skill. I was, by other's accounts, a pretty fast street rider. I am now a mid pack mini racer and intermediate track day rider. Now that I have taken it to the track I have no desire to go fast on the street. It's not that I miss it, it's that the track is like 1000 times more fun. If I get on the track once a month, I have no need to street ride for the rush. I might ride a little bit just for the fun of it, but never more than 8/10ths. I know my limits and how easy it is to push past them when the adrenaline starts flowing. Keeps me in check to ride another day.

I usually ride off the track pushing my limits once or twice a day, I'd hate to see the consequences of doing that on the street.
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It lets you explore the limits of your bike in a controlled environment. You can then apply that knowledge / skill in street riding situations, especially oh moments.

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And you can learn more in 20 minutes on the track than you can with multiple outings on the back roads.
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well, I hear about guys that are fast on track are not as fast on street turns and vice versa, guys that rip the streets, are slow on track
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:34 AM   #51
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On the track you focus on yourself.
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a track day is like MSF for people that wanna go fast..
Yea, except that at track days they don't go over strategies for safe street riding, besides that it's exactly the same only faster
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i feel more useful things can be learned by taking the MSF course. if it wasnt for awesome cycles i would have been down a few times already or down for good.
yes and no. MSF teaches safety on public roads and basic operations of the bike: turn it on, off, basic throttle and brake control, shifting, etc. a track day will actually teach you how to ride the bike. after doing a track day tho i came to realize just how complacent i had become on the street. i did a forest ride immediately following my td and was nervous going around curves so it made me slower on public roads. i saw this personally as a good thing because it made me more aware of the fact that i just dont know whats around that blind curve, how good of condition is the road really in, etc, but thats just me. some people do a td and go faster. ill never give up street and still have my fun, but im just not as trusting of it as i used to be.
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the freeways are a different story but it's so open and straight...
and full of holes, seams, tire treads, and all types of that has fallen off of trucks
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and full of holes, seams, tire treads, and all types of that has fallen off of trucks
ya but thats in mexico.
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One of the big things I noticed after doing several trackdays is that I apply more proper inputs to the bike on the street. What I mean by that is: I don't hold myself upright by pushing on the bars nor do I "push the bike under me" to turn. You see tons of streetriders..........even fast (I hate to use this term because being fast on the street has more to do with a lack of will to live than any kind of skill) riders riding like . After a few trackdays you're loose on the controls and leaning with the bike into turns. This puts you further from the edge of traction should the road get rough or an obstacle present itself on the street. Lastly, you gradually start looking further out in front of you. When you pick up your pace enough that you activate your body's "oh " system, your subconcious takes over and starts looking for a soft place to crash. As you become more comfortable with a particular pace, you can look further and further out in front which on the street will help you see hazards sooner.
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Really? Come ride with me on 610 and I-45 North
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Thats is one of the reasons i havent done any track days yet, i am afraid that doing after a few track days i am going to quit riding the streets. I really enjoy riding with my buddies and hang out and talk when we take a break at a gas station, to me riding on sundays is like a social event, most of my friends work hard during the week and we dont get to see each other until sunday, so even when my stupid duc is out of battery i still show up in my car just to say hi to the lucky ones that do get to enjoy the day on their bikes.
You'll still enjoy the social aspect of riding with friends, riding to bike nights, cruising to church, or whatever else it is you like about the street.

The only thing that would (likely) change, is that you won't be riding -out on the street... you save that for the track.
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Really? Come ride with me on 610 and I-45 North
yes. because ive never ridden 610 and I45.

it was a joke. dont go all sandy vag on me now.
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