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Old 11-24-2010, 09:53 PM   #41
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You also said they shouldn't be worried about holding people up which also tells the people that are faster to not be held up.....that its ok to disappear if they want to pick up the pace thus leaving behind the slower guys.
If MudBug or another Forest Gnome is leading, there will be a sweeper so that even the slowest will not be left
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:54 PM   #42
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ive ridden the forest plenty of times and have seen plenty of people go down or just go off the road. none were gixxers. a couple of which i even got on video.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:30 PM   #43
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:36 PM   #44
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i got left behind on my first fayetteville ride several years back. someone needed to use my tool kit from my bike and while i was putting everything back together and getting geared up, they all took off and left me and sbfuller behind. we were fkn .
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:42 PM   #45
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we were doing steady 130+ mph trying to catch up. then came intersections and we had no idea if they turned, went straight, etc. finally got ahold of Mack on the phone and we were 30 minutes in the other direction. the only reason they were stopped was because thats when Cornbread went down and got real messed up and totalled his bike. when he called us back they were already picking him up in the ambulance and cops were there. we told them to stay and we'd be there in 20 minutes. we got to the spot and they were gone.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:57 PM   #46
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If I was leading a Noob group: I would have the riders with the least experience ride closest behind me or another experienced rider mid-pack. That way they are following me/looking through the turns and imitating my body movement. Actual speed is up to the leader or group. That is going to vary on every ride I think. I also would not differentiate my speed through turns and straight, or VERY little. Remember, a smooth rider makes a good rider.
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:04 AM   #47
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So the pace is set by the slowest rider, I would think that would cause other riders to pass and try to keep up with the faster guys. But I can agree with keeping to posted speeds.
That right there is the problem with most noob rides. Trying to mix "faster" riders in on a "noob" ride is a recipe for disaster. Doesn't matter if you split the groups up or not, sooner or later someone gets over their head, or frustrated by having to wait or ride slow.

If you set up a "noob" ride, ride at the noob pace, or the slowest rider.
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Old 11-25-2010, 04:38 AM   #48
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the one noob ride i have been one was a pretty quick pace. i stayed with the slow group, with mudbug and a couple of others, out to yankees and rode with a quicker group on the way back. most of the time when i was with the slow group i felt ok going through corners and such. with the faster group though some of it was just too fast for a noob ride. i did like that there were clearly defined groups. you knew if you were in a fast or slow group.
the sweepers waiting at turn offs were a good thing to have, too. i went back out there a few weeks later and totally got myself lost. i would be a pretty angry noob if i got left behind in an unfamiliar area on a noob ride.

149 and 3090 can be fun at or near the posted limit.
every time i go out there i see at least 1 cop. it would look better for us to slow it down. im sure that would be reflected by a lessened police presence if more riders kept a sane head on their shoulders. we might have everyone ride home, as well. nobody to pick up off the ground, no names to ad to sig's, no bikes to trailer home
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The only thing that keeps me from going on rides with others is I enjoy the scenery of the forest while enjoying the peace and quiet of my helmet.
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It's hard to "ride your own pace" if you don't know what your pace is. Your talking about a "noob" ride. A lot of these riders will be on these roads for the first time, fresh out off the MSF parking lot.

I've found that if you are going to invite new riders to a ride, you better keep that group within 10 mph of the speed limit in the straights, and not more than about 1-1/2 x posted corner speeds.... and tapping a brake light or using some hand signals before the more dangerous corners is also a good idea.

..... And keep those "fast guys" that come out to noobs ride away from your noobs.

I personally keep the faster paced rides on the track.... or private invite with people I know and trust.
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