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Old 11-24-2010, 12:16 AM   #1
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Buying a non-running bike?

OK im looking to possibly by a bike that is not running but i want to make sure the motor is not just f**kt, out side of putting it in gear and rolling it is there anything else i can do?
possibly apply power directly to the starter?(is this possible?)
keep in mind this bike is going to be a project i.e: all electrical is screwed.
p.s. its a 07 zx6r
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Old 11-24-2010, 12:21 AM   #2
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I would want to know WHY the electrical is screwed.

No offense intended, but the fact that you ask this question tells me you don't need to buy a project bike. It is only going to frustrate you.
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needs a wiring harness. + a lot more
(its wrecked)

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I would want to know WHY the electrical is screwed.

No offense intended, but the fact that you ask this question tells me you don't need to buy a project bike. It is only going to frustrate you.
Great way to look at life...."If things might get hard, lay down and do nothing"



We're talking about bike, not a $200,000 house that may have termites and foundation issues.


If the price is right (like in the $1500 range), it has a clean title and the frame/chassis is true and all the hard bits are there, then go for it....

If you get too far into it and have a clean title, just part it...the frame alone (if clean) would get a large part of your money back.
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needs a wiring harness. + a lot more
Not what (although that is good to know)

But WHY does it need electrical work?
Dumbass previous owner messed with it?
- if he messed this up what else did he mess up, over tighten bolts, forgot to use oil, etc.

Stolen and/or vandalized?
- what else could have been damaged.

Fire?
- what else was damaged.

If a harness is messed up is the ECM good?
Fuel pump (you can check that it turns on but is it delivering the proper pressure)?

Others on here can give you a list of things to look into..

What I am saying is that unless he is basically giving it to you then stay away.

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Great way to look at life...."If things might get hard, lay down and do nothing"

We're talking about bike, not a $200,000 house that may have termites and foundation issues.

If the price is right (like in the $1500 range), it has a clean title and the frame/chassis is true and all the hard bits are there, then go for it....

If you get too far into it and have a clean title, just part it...the frame alone (if clean) would get a large part of your money back.
Nonsense. I just have a balance for my time and money. Nothing is free in life.

Sure if he can buy it for the cost of a clean frame then go for it. But many people actually want to ride. The fact that the OP is asking this question points to a lack of mechanical skills (not saying he is stupid, it all can be learned) but if the point is to be on two wheels there is better ways to spend ones' money to accomplish that goal.

My price would be around $1K.

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He basically is giving it to me and all that is irrelevant, I can fix any of the electrical issues thatís no problem if there a bad ECU I can change it, thatís all minor in my eyes, I just need to know that when its ready the MOTOR itself isnít going to inhibit me,
why every time I post people get on my thread talking when its really not necessary, if its not constructive donít offer it.
the wiring harness was damaged in the wreck because the bike was being ridden without fairings.
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BTW,
the price is 1k actually, and i already have a zx10 that runs great. need something else to fill my time
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He basically is giving it to me and all that is irrelevant, I can fix any of the electrical issues that’s no problem if there a bad ECU I can change it, that’s all minor in my eyes, I just need to know that when its ready the MOTOR itself isn’t going to inhibit me,
why every time I post people get on my thread talking when its really not necessary, if its not constructive don’t offer it.
the wiring harness was damaged in the wreck because the bike was being ridden without fairings.
You said buy so cost is relevant. The why is also relevant for some of the reasons I gave you.

If its been in a wreck be sure to check the frame.

Did the oil survive intact? oil filter and sight glass in good shape?
For testing I will let others chime in

Best of luck!

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the price is 1k actually, and i already have a zx10 that runs great. need something else to fill my time
AWESOME!! Have fun with it!
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To check the motor....

Pull the cover to access the crank bolt(Wild guess, never worked on one)but I imagine it will have one like every other bike ive worked on....

Manually turn the motor over. If there's no binding and he didnt grind a hole in a case cover and run the motor without oil it will probably be ok. You may want to pull the spark plugs when you spin the motor so youre not fighting compression. If it ran before it was wrecked and it didn't break the motor case then it should still run after the fact.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:10 PM   #10
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you can run power to the starter relay or starter itself and spin it over. listen for knocks/clacks/grinds/ticks/etc (and make sure it has oil). check compression. if all of the above are good, i would say its good to start with.

its an 07 kawi, so it has a TOS. as soon as it flips/falls/whatever... the engine cuts out.

i would put my money on the engine is fine, and the price sounds right.

i would say go for it
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One thing you can't tell by turning the motor over or even if it ran but you can't drive it is the health of the transmission. A bad tranny can cost more then a used motor...
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:24 PM   #12
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as long as you can shift through all the gears, and be able to rock the motor back and forth by the tire, its a good starting point.
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Yeah but unfortunantly it wont tell if if the second gear dogs are wore where it popps out under power.... Just saying, I'd factor that in or at least be prepared for it. If the tranny is good then it's like hitting the lotto...

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Old 11-24-2010, 10:25 PM   #14
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Its a gamble you win some you lose some, but i wouldnt be too worried about it. For 1 k you could part it out and still come out ahead.
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:57 PM   #15
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if it was good before the wreck, and the wiring is f'd, it's 99% still good. if not, motors r cheap in htown.
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thanks guys for all the input, going look at it saturday, told him if the motor rolls over manually, and the gears APPEAR to be good its a GO! what do yall think about stunting this bike is it comparable to the 636 or night and day?
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