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Old 11-18-2010, 02:40 PM   #21
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thing about the gun is,if someone tries to steal it, I will shoot them. If it goes to court, they'll likely get access to my military records. I was not only an expert marksman with both rifle and pistol, I was a coach and an instructor. I was trained two to the chest and one to the head, and in stressful situations one usually reverts back to ingrained reflex. I am afraid they would find I used unnecessary force; this is why I don't have a firearm.
dude...you worry too much. Two in the chest and one in the head gets you props and a high five in Texas.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:40 PM   #22
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I'll get in line with this. If you cover things on your end with locking it up properly and having good insurance on it then stop worrying about it. If someone wants your bike they're going to take it. Putting it to where you can't enjoy it only adds sting to it. Who's to say storage units are never broken in to? You could lock it up in a unit and come back 4 weeks later to find yer bike gone. So just lock it up and enjoy the bike. Let the police and insurance deal with the rest of something bad happens.
Exactly. I live in an apartment in Clear Lake, so it sounds like a much nicer area than Grimace is in, but my bike could be stolen just as easily since location doesn't mean a thing. My bike sits outside unguarded, so it's there for the taking. I don't feel like having it in a storage unit where access to it is so much harder that I don't ride it, and it's not chained and disc locked because I don't want to spend 20 minutes unlocking it to ride. Insurance and a beat up looking bike are my safeguards.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:43 PM   #23
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Meh - if you're keeping it at home, I'd just go for a Mossberg. Cheaper, dont have to hit em probably more than once...

If you didnt live all the way the and gone in Stinkadena, i'd offer to let you park it in my garage, but thats a LONG way to drive just to go for a ride...
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:04 PM   #25
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Don't throw your life away over property.

Motorcycle = $8,000

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Old 11-18-2010, 03:08 PM   #26
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just get theft insurance and the lock and call it a day. I havent seen very many HPD cars that have the lojack systems on board ive heard good things about that first warning GPS stuff tho.
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Even in a house you're not safe. I've got three bikes in the garage right now and people drive by and see stuff. One day I came home and the top of my garage door was bent in like that were trying to get to the opener release. They didn't get in but just because you're in a house doesn't mean you're save either. If they want it, they'll take it. Just keep that insurance paid up. LOL
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Don't throw your life away over property.

Motorcycle = $8,000

Legal fees for a manslaughter/murder = $20,000+
Chance of 2 to life in prison
Lesser included convictions on your record

Not worth it.


Wise man!

Even if you win in court it is still a losing game.

You will have to get an attorney for a defense of property.
You will lose a lot of your life in court.
You may face reckless endangerment (or other charges) for firing a weapon where there is no immediate danger to your life or others.

If they are IN your house KILL them.

Let the legal folks chime in but I believe that lethal force for defense of property is an affirmative defense (means you are still guilty of crime but the circumstances can be used in trial to get you off).
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Can you chain lock or park it nears the stairs?

The old motorcycle cover is always a good idea.
manager refused. She's a
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, I'd get her to put in writing that you're not allowed to put the bike in your living space, chain it to this, chain it to that...etc incase something happens for insurance reasons.
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Don't throw your life away over property.

Motorcycle = $8,000

Legal fees for a manslaughter/murder = $20,000+
Chance of 2 to life in prison
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Not worth it.
Sounds to me like I was right to worry.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:39 PM   #32
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I have FC, but am upside down on the bike. If it is stolen, Idk if I can pay the bike off and get another.
GAP insurance? or upside down b/c you rolled one loan into another?
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Let the legal folks chime in but I believe that lethal force for defense of property is an affirmative defense (means you are still guilty of crime but the circumstances can be used in trial to get you off).
You have a better grip of the subject than most. Affirmative defenses are a difficult concept to explain.

The easiest way to think about use of deadly force is that ALL use of deadly force provisions in Texas are rooted in self defense or defense of others. If you can't craft self-defense or defense of others out of the situation, you're going to be in for an uphill battle.
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Don't throw your life away over property.

Motorcycle = $8,000

Legal fees for a manslaughter/murder = $20,000+
Chance of 2 to life in prison
Lesser included convictions on your record

Not worth it.
I have to agree with this. I have tried to make this point to many many people. You're better off if you can claim fear for your life. You bet your the things you are worried about can come up in a civil trial.
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GAP insurance? or upside down b/c you rolled one loan into another?
Progressive said I was too far upside down. Don't care to post how much.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:00 PM   #36
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If a low life was stealing my , he would get poped, capped , slapped, stomped etc ....
This is Texas , we don't back down to low life thieves.
That is where thiefs think they got it made ,because if you retaliate .
To me, it is defense of property & your man card.
You think when they holding you or a loved one up ,they care ?
Not likley.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:01 PM   #37
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Gotta love getting off topic. I would just shoot them. You don't know if they have a gun or what. You walk outside, it's dark, and you interupt three dudes in ski masks committing a felony and stealing your off your porch while your baby is sleeping inside. If that doesn't constitute self-defense I don't know what does. Charles Bronson, how could you not feel threatened?
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from my understanding if someone is lets say in your yard at night in texas you can shoot them and say you feared for your life nd the lives of ur kids, wife
back on topic i have insurance if someone stole my pos i would get more than i paid for the bike plus all the parts and upgrades ive done i dont even lock my bike up anymore. its so close to my front door and my dogs would wake me up ive been woken up 2 times this year for someone coming up to my door in the middle of the night.
do you live downstairs park it on your patio and chain it to the fence.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:32 PM   #39
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Hmmmm I see your scooter outside the scale house. Ima jack your right now while you got a truck blocking your view.
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from my understanding if someone is lets say in your yard at night in texas you can shoot them and say you feared for your life nd the lives of ur kids, wife
back on topic i have insurance if someone stole my pos i would get more than i paid for the bike plus all the parts and upgrades ive done i dont even lock my bike up anymore. its so close to my front door and my dogs would wake me up ive been woken up 2 times this year for someone coming up to my door in the middle of the night.
do you live downstairs park it on your patio and chain it to the fence.
I live downstairs but no patio. Management insists that it is a vehicle and threrfore must be kept in the parking lot. BTW anyone looking for a room mate that has a garage??
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