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Old 08-08-2006, 10:24 AM   #41
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I ran into a barbed wire fince on my go-cart about 15 years about and almost took the passangers head off.
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Why lean............I keep up with you and just CRUISE!!!!:laughing6
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:25 AM   #43
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and nothing to do w/ steering geometry, roding position, killer brakes, or maturity?
I think maturity>*, 250 is as dangerous as 1k if you ride like a jackass.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:26 AM   #44
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I ran into a barbed wire fince on my go-cart about 15 years about and almost took the passangers head off.
Lmao...when I was 12 I almost flipped a go-cart and in the process...passanger went flyin' out the side...that was some funny shyt:icon_bigg
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Liter bikes are a bad idea as a first bike no matter how in control you think you are. Anybody who has been riding long enough should have the experience to understand that. I mean really... every 600RR I owned could not do wheelies in 3rd gear while just cruizing down the road at 70 or so.... but on my 954 i could be cruizing in 3rd blip the throttle and away we go on 1 wheel. So for an inexperienced rider who hits that bump in the road and jerks the throttle will be concrete surfing with a bike laying on him or next to him really quick. Then there is how the bike reacts out of corners. On all my 600's I could ring its neck coming out of the majority of corners but the 954 would let you know it was not happy about that real quick with some nice head shake.
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Liter bikes are a bad idea as a first bike no matter how in control you think you are. Anybody who has been riding long enough should have the experience to understand that. I mean really... every 600RR I owned could not do wheelies in 3rd gear while just cruizing down the road at 70 or so.... but on my 954 i could be cruizing in 3rd blip the throttle and away we go on 1 wheel. So for an inexperienced rider who hits that bump in the road and jerks the throttle will be concrete surfing with a bike laying on him or next to him really quick. Then there is how the bike reacts out of corners. On all my 600's I could ring its neck coming out of the majority of corners but the 954 would let you know it was not happy about that real quick with some nice head shake.
your 954 must have alot of power, havent heard that many older 1k could do a 3rd gear power wheelie.
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I think maturity>*, 250 is as dangerous as 1k if you ride like a jackass.
+1.......I'm all for getting as much knowledge and expierience as possible BUT heaping ton's of abuse on someone for NOT starting out with a 250:eh:
Working WITH them is better than driving them away and maybe forcing them to try and prove something to you...............and busting they're *ss
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Liter bikes are a bad idea as a first bike no matter how in control you think you are. Anybody who has been riding long enough should have the experience to understand that. I mean really... every 600RR I owned could not do wheelies in 3rd gear while just cruizing down the road at 70 or so.... but on my 954 i could be cruizing in 3rd blip the throttle and away we go on 1 wheel. So for an inexperienced rider who hits that bump in the road and jerks the throttle will be concrete surfing with a bike laying on him or next to him really quick. Then there is how the bike reacts out of corners. On all my 600's I could ring its neck coming out of the majority of corners but the 954 would let you know it was not happy about that real quick with some nice head shake.
No offense...but I've hit all kinds of bumps and no problems here (even, unfortunately, in curves). It's like with anything in life...practice makes perfect. I would think that the more you ride, the less incidents, like the one you've volunteered, affect the rider. For most, I'd agree with you...liter bikes aren't for MOST new riders, but to say flatly...that all new riders should start with smaller by is what I would consider a false assumption.
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I was 17 when i got my first bike a 98 zx9..It scared the * out of me for the first year..But after that i was good to go..I dont know this guy but he might be ok on a liter bike..Look at rickykline he bought a R1 for his first bike and dont go over 100..Maybe your friend should ride with him...Goodluck
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+1.......I'm all for getting as much knowledge and expierience as possible BUT heaping ton's of abuse on someone for NOT starting out with a 250:eh:
Working WITH them is better than driving them away and maybe forcing them to try and prove something to you...............and busting they're *ss
coddle his stupid after he buy's the bike, but do all you can before. if you re-enforce his stupid logic, your part of the problem.

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No offense...but I've hit all kinds of bumps and no problems here (even, unfortunately, in curves). It's like with anything in life...practice makes perfect. I would think that the more you ride, the less incidents, like the one you've volunteered, affect the rider. For most, I'd agree with you...liter bikes aren't for MOST new riders, but to say flatly...that all new riders should start with smaller by is what I would consider a false assumption.
and so it makes sense to practice on a top tier rocket or a beginner bike.....hmmm.......

and odds again are what ? for or against him ? answer that.
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No offense...but I've hit all kinds of bumps and no problems here (even, unfortunately, in curves). It's like with anything in life...practice makes perfect. I would think that the more you ride, the less incidents, like the one you've volunteered, affect the rider. For most, I'd agree with you...liter bikes aren't for MOST new riders, but to say flatly...that all new riders should start with smaller by is what I would consider a false assumption.
If you have zero experience with motorcycles then I can say flatly you should not be on a liter bike and that is my opinion. I would never recommend somebody get a widow maker for their first bike and would have to question anybody suggesting or approving of it.
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your 954 must have alot of power, havent heard that many older 1k could do a 3rd gear power wheelie.
...all seriousness, mines will jump up in 5th if I slam the throttle. Found that out by mistake the other day.
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If you have zero experience with motorcycles then I can say flatly you should not be on a liter bike and that is my opinion. I would never recommend somebody get a widow maker for their first bike and would have to question anybody suggesting or approving of it.
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I and would have to question anybody suggesting or approving of it.
now imagine if that person was an MSF inst........:eh:

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and you've been riding? 1 yr.........lol
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Like it or not, age does play a factor. Someone with 13 years driving experience is less likely to have an accident as someone with 3 years. Younger people tend to take more chances too. If he's 28 then he'll probably do Ok.

As for me, I'm sticking with the 600.

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